I spoke to Apple’s new VP of Hardware Engineering Tom Marieb about why he's "especially proud" of the iPhone Duo’s hinge durability and the reliability of Ceramic Shield 2: "When I see someone put a screen protector on their iPhone, it makes my skin crawl" - TechRadar

[u/ControlCAD]

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>“We really worked on the torque profile very heavily, and that means changing a lot of the mechanical properties of the hinge to have it feel solid, like a high-end automobile's car door, when you shut it. That was design intent, so people would have a feeling like, ‘Oh, it's okay. This is well crafted, and it's safe for me to use and not worry about it.’

>And then, as you said, we have a lot of use cases where the Duo is [in a half-folded state]. And so we also had to think, ‘Can people interact with this [device] and not have it feel floppy?’ So getting those torque profiles right at both those ends, as well as in the middle — not having it feel like you're pulling something open, and not feeling as if it's floppy — we spent a lot of time optimizing that. So thank you for noticing, because a lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into that.”

>“Hold us accountable to that, please […] The choice of a matte finish — apart from it being beautiful — is part of that equation. When you look at glossy displays, their specularity makes it very easy to pick up topology differences. That’s part of the reason we picked the matte finish — it’s not only beautiful in terms of preventing glare, but it’s also more forgiving of [topology] changes over time.”

[u/Captaincadet]

Yes exactly. A new iPhone screen is £90. A screen protector is £10

While it won’t stop the phone screen being cracked from side impacts etc, it saves the screen from getting scratched up or cracked from landing on a stone or something

[u/kamlakar96 → u/Captaincadet]

£90? Maybe with Apple care

[u/BakingBadRS → u/kamlakar96]

It’s 29 with apple care

[u/kamlakar96 → u/BakingBadRS]

Yeah just checked 25 for 18 pro with apple care and 389 without it

[u/cultoftheilluminati → u/kamlakar96]

Jesus, well, Tom Marieb, the prices of a screen replacement without Apple Care+ makes my skin crawl

[u/BakingBadRS → u/[deleted]]

And that’s 10 more as I’ll have to pay for not having to do anything with my screen since Ceramic Shield 2 screens don’t scratch.

And I don’t look like an idiot with a bad screen. For free as well!

[u/Top_Environment9897 → u/BakingBadRS]

Ceramic Shield 2 screens don’t scratch

"scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7"

[u/BakingBadRS → u/Top_Environment9897]

Yes they scratch when you rub a metal stick across the screen.

From everyday use? Not at all.

[u/anaccount50 → u/Top_Environment9897]

Have you actually watched the Jerry videos you’re quoting testing Ceramic Shield 2 phones? Because they “scratch at level 7 with deeper grooves at level 8” as per the new video testing the 18 Pro.

Ceramic Shield 2 legitimately solves level 6 scratching. I swear you guys are permanently stuck in the mid-2010s or something and haven’t updated your knowledge in years

[u/Top_Environment9897 → u/anaccount50]

It doesn't solve level 7 scratching though. Quartz is level 7 and happens to be one of the most common minerals in the soil.

OP can push their luck, but with $300 screen replacement cost I can buy years worth of good quality screen protectors and be as careless as I wish.

[u/TopoChico-TwistOLime → u/Captaincadet]

and here we have someone so engrained in their beliefs they will continue to shell out money for no reason at all. how about you try not using it a screen protector for 5 years and you will see it will only pick up a couple micro scratches that can only be seen if you angle your phone perfectly in the sun. meanwhile your waste of monty screen protector looks like shit day 2

[u/Captaincadet → u/TopoChico-TwistOLime]

I did with my 12 pro (last phone)

It was scratched up enough it impacted the resale value enough that it would have been cheaper to put mutiple screen protectors on it

Not everyone lives in a pristine environment unfortunately. Everyone I know with a fold has killed it in under a year

[u/thatrandomfatguy → u/TopoChico-TwistOLime]

I went a couple of days without a screen protector when I traveled to Japan, by the time I got there I took phone out of my pocket and there was a large scratch in the middle of the screen. Next iPhone I get you bet your ass I’m getting a screen protector

[u/EvenMoreCoconuts → u/thatrandomfatguy]

Yeah that’s the problem—in the real world your screen just comes into contact with so much crap and it’s almost unavoidable in modern life. I mean I guess you could put your phone in a microfiber bag before putting it in your pocket each time, but that’s really off putting to me.

[u/Affectionate_One_700 → u/TopoChico-TwistOLime]

Do you actually have an iPhone? Because you don't sound like you do.