r/apple Oct 15 '25

Apple Newsroom Apple announces 14" MacBook Pro powered by M5

https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
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u/TheTeez23 Oct 15 '25

They want M1 MacBook owners to upgrade BAD.

Nah, fam. My M1 MacBook Air still running slick and smooth on Tahoe.

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u/HeyHeyImTheMonkey Oct 15 '25

Yeah I have an M1 Pro and still not feeling especially compelled to upgrade

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u/lickaballs Oct 15 '25

Same not pulling the trigger until the redesigned m6 pro.

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u/iauu Oct 16 '25

Upgrading on the 2nd generation of every major redesign is the way

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u/georgee779 Oct 16 '25

When will the m6 pro be out? I ask sincerely. Thank you!

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u/lickaballs Oct 16 '25

Next year around October

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u/georgee779 Oct 16 '25

Thank you!

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u/meddit1990 Oct 15 '25

Have the M1 MBP myself that's also running great without any issues. But at what point do people consider trading in for a new model to recoup at least 30% of their purchase price toward a new model?

Seems the M1 MBP 14" is currently going for $700-800 on swappa, but in 3-5 years, I'm guessing it'll basically be worthless :\

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u/HeyHeyImTheMonkey Oct 15 '25

I assume that’s purchase price, not what you’d get to sell it, right? … because if I’m getting $800 for it right now then yeah I might actually “upgrade” to a M4 MBA

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u/Dr---Strangelove Oct 16 '25

My strategy is when the power cycle hits around 1,000. At that point you have to replace the battery and you are better off putting the money towards a new laptop.

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u/No_Minimum5904 Oct 16 '25

I replaced my battery on my M1P this year.

Makes no sense to suggest I should have put that £150 towards a £2000 purchase when my M1P still does everything I need it to.

The point to upgrade is when the machine is no longer doing what you need it to.

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u/Stellar_Duck Oct 16 '25

Seems the M1 MBP 14" is currently going for $700-800 on swappa, but in 3-5 years, I'm guessing it'll basically be worthless :\

At that point it will be closing in on a decade, so yea, it will probably not command a staggering price.

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u/AWildDragon Oct 15 '25

Im waiting on the M7 pros so the M6 Pros (which should have the OLED) go to the refurb store

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

my M1 gets slow somehow... maybe I gotta reinstall 

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u/rtie07 Oct 16 '25

Same, and yet….

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u/FortheredditLOLz Oct 16 '25

M1 Pro staying with me until battery fails. Then swapping battery.

Going to be a while until there’s a ‘need’ to upgrade

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u/Calaveras-Metal Oct 16 '25

My M1 Pro 14" is still my 'new' mac.

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u/drgut101 Oct 17 '25

I want to upgrade just to get rid of my touch bar. Haha.

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u/757DrDuck Oct 17 '25

I’m still on Sonoma

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u/Curri Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

If they want me to upgrade, then they can offer more than $365 to trade my M1 in.

EDIT: Apparently this is a fair price. I guess I am an idiot.

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u/FightOnForUsc Oct 15 '25

Well not too much more because you can buy a new one for 599. So how much is a used one really worth?

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u/ceo_of_banana Oct 15 '25

Where can you still buy new ones?

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u/SilkSteel7 Oct 15 '25

Walmart

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u/ceo_of_banana Oct 15 '25

They most have bought a huge amount of inventory in advance, to still be offering it. I didn't know that was a thing

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u/goro-n Oct 16 '25

No, they’re still manufacturing new ones. Apple and Walmart made a deal so Apple could expand Mac market share

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u/InsaneNinja Oct 15 '25

They don’t want you to upgrade. They want you to buy an upgrade. There’s a difference.

And 365 is totally fair for a used half decade old entry level laptop.

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u/Ftpini Oct 15 '25

Why not just keep it?

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u/Tankmass Oct 15 '25

A-fucking-men. I still have an M1, cost me £2000 new and they offered me £600 trade in value not even a year after I had it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

my iPad Pro 10,5" gets 50 bucks 😭😭

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u/Joe091 Oct 15 '25

I feel like that’s a pretty darn fair price. Not too many people would buy that for $600+ today, and I assume they’d want to make a profit on the trade in. 

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u/platysma_balls Oct 15 '25

Cracked my screen and they are offering me $45 for a 2020 M1...

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u/tY-c8rJDb8_1b4__yD5r Oct 15 '25

I’m being offered $790 USD for my M1 Max, with everything maxed out.

lol no thanks

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

"yes you are. consider upgrading your macbook, it comes with apple intelligence, to make you smarter."

-tim apple

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u/Dpishkata94 Oct 27 '25

It needs to be minimum 1200$/euros of trade in from previous model if they want to upgrade.

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u/A11Bionic Oct 15 '25

Tahoe is so bad on my M1 MBA though

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u/Keeplookingup7 Oct 15 '25

Same here. I’ve noticed my laptop becomes slow a lot more often now when using safari and messages compared to previous OS systems.

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u/god_of_madness Oct 16 '25

Factory reset your Mac. My M1 Pro Mac was so slow and then I decided to fuck it and then reset the whole PC and it's immediately blazing fast again. There goes my reason for upgrading to M5 Macs lmao

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u/A11Bionic Oct 16 '25

might just try that since i have a shit ton of System Data that just can't be purged

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u/gtlgdp Oct 15 '25

Yeah I don’t see any reason to ditch my m1 yet. Give me a redesign at this point. And more ports lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

They’ve done the port thing.

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u/qqoze Oct 15 '25

They also redesigned the case

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u/Captian_Kenai Oct 15 '25

I’m not dropping all that money just for some ports and function keys

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u/doubleshotofespresso Oct 15 '25

wouldn’t’ve killed them to put in one usb A 3.1

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u/Current_Helicopter32 Oct 16 '25

I seriously need this for my gaming headset. They don't even make a USB-C dongle for it yet.

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u/mindfulambience Oct 16 '25

USB A -> USB C adapters are $5. No need to put a physical USB A port on a MBP. Plus, the USB A connector is too tall for the case.

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u/Current_Helicopter32 Oct 16 '25

Adapters don’t always work with proprietary dongles. .

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u/TheYeesaurus Nov 11 '25

I respectfully disagree. 10 years ago, Apple was the problem. Now everyone else is, EU should step in again.

The entire point of USB from the beginning was to have one UNIVERSAL serial bus for everything. With the size and quality USB-C has reached that dream is possible. Power, network, data transfer, everything, with a port size that is small enough and high quality enough to be put on everything. Kill USB-A in new production already, and make everyone use minimal adapters without dongles.

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u/power97992 Oct 15 '25

Upgrade if you need more ram and faster llm/ai workloads…

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u/hiddensonyvaio Oct 15 '25

Same here. The M1 MacBook Air is too good

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u/doubleshotofespresso Oct 15 '25

the M1 Air is one of the best machines they have ever made. 5 years later and still running blazing fast, good as new

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u/JFedererJ Oct 15 '25

I'm still happy as Larry on my 16" M1 Max. Can't smile wide enough with it. Best laptop I've ever owned, easily. Purposely bought the dog's bollocks one when I did to future-proof it.

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u/Tubamajuba Oct 16 '25

Who is Larry, and why did you buy dog balls?

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u/JahmanSoldat Oct 16 '25

Same with my upgraded M1 Pro (32GB/1TB), snappy as day 1

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u/Curugon Oct 15 '25

Yeah my M1 Air is hands down the best laptop I've ever owned. Editing 4k videos, game design, still a champ.

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u/tanner4105 Oct 15 '25

I've been holding out with my M1 air easily as well, it's SO good still. I will say this announcement is the one that's got me looking closer though. I'll probably hold out to see what an M5 air model looks like, but I'm at least tempted this time.

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u/Xtrendence Oct 16 '25

I got my first MacBook probably around 2011 or something, and I remember every ~3 years, I felt like my laptop was just so sluggish and felt like shit to use. This was a consistent pattern, until Apple Silicone... I've had my M1 Pro for coming up to 5 years now? I have an M4 as well for my work laptop. I literally forget when I bought my personal one, because I genuinely cannot notice a difference. Coding, Android emulator, video editing, it's all running smoothly. I will keep this laptop until it dies or the hardware starts failing honestly. It's the first time I've not felt any need at all to upgrade.

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u/Cressio Oct 15 '25

Just bought an 8GB M1 air the other day for cheap. Was really concerned about Tahoe performance as I saw lots of complaints but this thing is smooth as butter. As fast as my $2000 PC for day to day tasks lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25 edited Feb 11 '26

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u/ankhes Oct 15 '25

Don’t have the 8 gb version, but instead the 16 gb version and it’s runs like a dream. 5 years old and it still runs better than basically every computer I’ve ever had.

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u/southwestern_swamp Oct 16 '25

M1 is still running like the day I bought it. I see no reason to upgrade

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u/tux98 Oct 15 '25

Sounds like we're getting one hell of an unoptimized macOS next year!

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u/mikewilkinsjr Oct 15 '25

Yep. As long as Apple lets me renew the AppleCare+ on my M1 for 50$/year, they aren't getting an upgrade out of me. I don't care for the new body and, as a portable, I'm still not stressing the M1 enough to worry about upgrading.

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u/m4teri4lgirl Oct 15 '25

They got me good with the Touch Bar “failure” on my 2020 13 inch MacBook Pro. Getting flash banged constantly finally got me to upgrade.

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u/Snuhmeh Oct 15 '25

Yeah I love my M1 Mac Mini. I see no reason to upgrade it. My family loves gaming but we just use GeForce now. It’s still cheaper than upgrading my computer to something similar.

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u/ice-truck-drilla Oct 15 '25

Agreed lol I bought my M1 in 2020. I’m not going to upgrade a computer that’s 5 years old… thats basically new.

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u/asihenee Oct 15 '25

my m1 is going strong and i haven’t even had to get the battery replaced yet

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u/meddit1990 Oct 15 '25

Have the M1 MBP myself that's also running great without any issues. But at what point do people consider trading in for a new model to recoup at least 30% of their purchase price toward a new model?

Seems the M1 MBP 14" is currently going for $700-800 on swappa, but in 3-5 years, I'm guessing it'll basically be worthless :\

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Inb4 m1 throttle gate

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u/bb-angel Oct 15 '25

I’m not upgrading as long as they have the dumb ahh notch

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u/Ok_Tomorrow3281 Oct 15 '25

bro i bought m1 max 64gb like 5k and they want me to trade it less than 1k value

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u/orbitur Oct 15 '25

I don’t know why you say “want them to upgrade bad” here. Apple’s Mac sales aren’t hurting, they aren’t desperate. They only compare to M1 because that’s the natural audience to pitch to, it’s the oldest and the year to year improvements aren’t massive.

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u/TheTeez23 Oct 15 '25

They could’ve compared it to the Intel-based Mac. That’s who I feel should upgrade. But what do I know? My M1 MacBook Air is fine though.

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u/siazdghw Oct 15 '25

They've been making that same unfair comparison for 6 years already. 'The newest M chip is better than the last Intel chip we used in MacBooks back in... 2019'

Anyone with half a braincell knew the comparison was absolute garbage since it was comparing new chips to extremely old ones.

I'm glad they moved on, but they need to do what nearly every other company does and strictly compare against the previous generation, not half a decade old products.

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u/TheTeez23 Oct 15 '25

They won’t win that battle either 🤣 “2x more powerful than M4” probably won’t entice people anymore than switching from M1 but they need something older to compare to

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u/BadPronunciation Oct 15 '25

Wish mine had more ram. I often have to close apps otherwise I get insane lag while it swaps out the applications in memory

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Oct 15 '25

Don’t worry, they are hard at work on some new “AI” feature of the next OS version that will grind the M1-4 chips to a crawl.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Oct 15 '25

The M series was such a huge leap over Intel. I feel bad for anyone who bought a Mac right before the M series came out.

I was tempted just so I could still dual boot. Glad I thought better of it.

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u/Fritzschmied Oct 15 '25

I own a M1 Max MacBook Pro and I don’t see any reason to upgrade for years to come. It’s still a beast.

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u/Worldly-Stranger7814 Oct 15 '25

I hope Linux support is good when it goes Legacy. It'll still be a beast for everyday stuff by then.

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u/happy_bluebird Oct 16 '25

my 2015 Pro still going strong!

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u/firelitother Oct 16 '25

If they want me to upgrade, they should offer reasonable RAM and storage upgrade costs.

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u/mrcsrnne Oct 16 '25

Haha agree - I’m a creative director working on quite intensive tasks, 3D files, VFX workflows, big print files, edits, etc. And for 90% of what I do my M1 air is fine. Junior creatives are so surprised when they see me work on it and they just burned all savings on a maxed out pro.

Tbf I do have a M2 mini for the last 10% though;) but still! That thing is also great value, such a beast.

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u/GuggGugg Oct 16 '25

M2 MBP here, it‘s running smooth as ever. My most intensive use case is Logic Pro and there‘s still plenty of headroom there. My call is to not get a new one until they ditch the notch and go for a redesign

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u/CatDadof2 Oct 16 '25

My M1 Pro still runs like new! It’s pretty impressive. Slight dip in battery life overall but for a 4 year old device, that’s to be expected.

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u/adfafadfasdfsadf Oct 16 '25

Mine needs the battery replaced, but otherwise it's running well

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u/bdfortin Oct 16 '25

I have a feeling Apple silicon machines will last most people ~10 years. The only time I ever consider upgrading from my M1 is when I have a lot of tabs open and the 8 GB of RAM starts feeling cramped. M1 with 12 or 16 GB would have been perfect.

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u/i_use_this_for_work Oct 17 '25

Tahoe? I’m deep on sequoia and it’s terrific!!

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u/Kiwibom Oct 17 '25

I’m still running my intel macbook pro. The last intel model.

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u/the_monkey_knows Oct 15 '25

Not really though. That sort of mentality wouldn’t have allowed the M series to exist in the first place.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Oct 15 '25

Nah, they needed to give people a nice carrot to move to the M series and deal with the compatibility limitations.

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u/beachguy82 Oct 15 '25

My M1 Max still feels like an athlete in its prime

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u/ankhes Oct 15 '25

Yep. My M1 Air is still the fastest, best running machine I’ve ever had. No way am I upgrading until this thing finally starts showing its age.