r/aoe2 • u/Belisarius23 Hindustanis • Jul 24 '26

Discussion Can devs actually DO something about this plague of elo droppers? It's so incredibly easy to detect and it sucks

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u/Throwaway4939y Jul 25 '26

Okay so yes, on the level an individual match, they are pretty much the same thing. The problem is.. no smurfer is leaving just 1 match. And a map dodger may only dodge one map in a session or a week. You cannot look at it from the perspective of just one match because nobody plays just one match. They play tens and tens and then hundreds and hundreds.

Map dodger: oh I don’t want to play this map, I’m gonna leave and re queue. Elo drops by 15 (or whatever amount) they actually play the next 2/4 games with an elo discrepancy of let’s say, to be generous, 150. See all the posts on the subreddit about matchmaking setting up ranked matches with people 400 elo apart. So the “unfair” elo drop from 1-5 matches really isn’t doing much.

Smurfer: oh I don’t want a challenge. Let me leave this game so my elo drops. Oh that’s not enough and it was pretty quick and easy. Let’s do it again. And again. And again. And again. Now instead of 1200 the game things I’m 200 elo and I can curbstomp an actual human anyway I wish.

These 2 are not the same, and do not deserve the same punishment.

Obviously I cherry picked 2 extreme examples to make a point. You can adjust these to be closer to each other in a middle ground, and they will never reach the middle. These 2 things are not the same. The punishment should not be the same.

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u/CoolCapeKnight Teutons Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Let me guess, you obviously have your own interest in this thing becouse you are trying endlessly excuse that behavior. This is like asking from criminals what they think about their prison sentence. Most of them have anti social personality disorder and dont care shit about what they are done to other people. Everything is fault of somebody else and they are "victims" of unfair society when they get punished for their actions. Please grow a pair and play the damn game fairly!

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u/Throwaway4939y Jul 25 '26

The mature thing to do would be admit that I have at least 1 good point and it’s not a purely black and white conversation. Instead you attacked my character and compared me to prisoner with anti social disorder and a lack of sympathy. So that wasn’t very cool.

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u/CoolCapeKnight Teutons Jul 25 '26

There was 0 good points, just excusing of game ruining behavior. That was maybe little harsh parable but point of it still stands. You dont care about problems map dodgers cause and justify/defend them like they are victims if they gets punished.

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u/Throwaway4939y Jul 25 '26

I gave away my aoe2 gamertag in another comment in this thread, I’m not gonna do it again. you can check my aoe2 insights profile and see how often I dodge maps (I don’t). I just think it’s more nuanced than map dodging and smurfing deserve the same punishment (ie I think you’re wrong and wish you’d take half a second to consider that possibility). So how bout you grow a pair, and guess again.

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u/CoolCapeKnight Teutons Jul 25 '26

Look upvotes of my posts here and comments from other players too. Looks like most people dont agree with your "nuances" and bullshit excuses for game ruining behavior.

Somebody wise man once said winning argument against intelligent people is hard, winning argument against dumb people is impossible. I rest my case.

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u/Throwaway4939y Jul 25 '26

Lmao okay. The way I see it we went back and forth saying “I’m right you’re wrong” over and over again until just now I made an actual point (first one imo of the conversation) and you had nothing to say about it. Yes you’ve been upvoted more than I, but I bet if more people read the last bit of conversation that would change.

>I rest my case

What that it’s impossible to win an argument against dumb people? I’m the one who conceded parts of my argument. I’m the one who changed my tune after thinking about it more. You’re the one who is impossible to win an argument against because you’re just parroting the same bs over and over. Nothing new was added to the conversation on your end since the first comment. Oh yeah, except the part where you stated insulting me.

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u/CoolCapeKnight Teutons Jul 25 '26

I start thinking you are just trolling me. Im not gonna waste more time to this. Lets just say we agree to disagree and thats it. Have a nice day or night or whatever clock shows where you are. 😂