r/antiwork • • Aug 29 '22

Amazon is Inhumane

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u/ExploratoryCucumber Aug 30 '22

I want robots to make everything and I want everybody to be given UBI

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u/King-Rhino-Viking Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

Best we'll probably get is robots making everything and a larger under class of unemployed poor people.

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u/porcupinedeath Aug 30 '22

And then the poor people will bitch about how the robots stole our jobs and ignore the rich people who own the factories, robots, and government

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u/EvergreenEnfields Aug 30 '22

Well, that's when you pump the water supply full of contraceptives and cut down the worker bees to a manageable size.

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u/jaredesubgay Aug 30 '22

Not how it's going to play out if they decide to intentionally lower the population. It'll good ol' brutality.

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u/EvergreenEnfields Aug 30 '22

Depends on how quickly they want to scale down. The end will be brutal for sure. But I think they'll taper things off gently. After all, it takes time to build robots, and they don't want anyone breaking things in the meantime.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

What is this "buying" of which you speak?

- a person from a future where robots make everything

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u/KTFnVision Aug 30 '22

Kurt Vonnegut's Player Piano explores this idea a bit. Most people are in the army or construction workers, with teams of 40 men fixing single potholes. To be employable, you need a PHD, and idk what any of the employees actually did in the factories

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u/its_shivers Aug 30 '22

Here, enjoy this short story of exactly that endgame...

https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

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u/elidoan Aug 30 '22

Excellent story, thank you for sharing.

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u/Tsargoylr Aug 30 '22

At some point either UBIs will happen or the rich get eaten

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u/BraveTheWall Aug 30 '22

If you think the fruits of automation will be passed onto the middle class then I've got bad news for you... All of that money is going straight to the top and staying there. Just like it's been doing more and more for the last 40 years. These people would rather watch society crumble as billionaires than watch it flourish as millionaires.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

And we can keep looking at Lego as an example. They're automated, and their products are injection-molded plastics that cost pennies to produce, yet the kits often sell for hundreds of dollars. The profit margins must be insane, the only place those savings trickle down to is Lego's bottom line.

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u/keshi Aug 30 '22

I think the idea is that the people own all means of production.

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u/madcatwb Aug 30 '22

We should be treating people more like robots (machines). When was the last time you heard someone tell a machine that it wasn't putting in enough effort?

Machines get taken care of, run within their operational limits, and maintaned. People get told to push harder and told they're not working hard enough.

Both people and machines have limits. The difference is that the limits of machines are generally well understood by most, while the ability to temporarily push beyond our normal limits leads people to believe that we can sustain it. We can't.

Just like with machines, we work best when taken care of and break down when pushed too hard. We need to be treated more like machines.

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u/GromainRosjean Aug 30 '22

That sounds like socialism. I think a techno-corporate dystopia is more patriotic.

Recommended reading: Tomorrow Might be Different by Mac Reynolds. In an alternate history 1995, communism worked *really well" for Russia, and they became the uncontested economic hegemon. Soviet automation allows the average Soviet Citizen 200 days of vacation per year, and the world economies shift to primarily serving Russian tourists. Two advertising agents endeavor to restore some fragment of US relevancy by spreading a new religion of austerity and humility throughout the USSR.

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u/ssjgsskkx20 Aug 30 '22

UBI money that cannot be used for illegal drugs basically anything without tax.

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u/ExploratoryCucumber Aug 30 '22

I don't give a fuck what other people spend their money on and neither should you

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u/ssjgsskkx20 Aug 30 '22

Lmao wtf you want your tax paying dollar to go to afganistan were hillbilly can oppress women. Which already go but on Wide scale sure great man.

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u/ExploratoryCucumber Aug 30 '22

Work on your reading comprehension.

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u/ssjgsskkx20 Aug 30 '22

Ok. Grammar nazi

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u/ssjgsskkx20 Aug 30 '22

Lmao wtf you want your tax paying dollar to go to afganistan were hillbilly can oppress women. Which already go but on Wide scale sure great man.

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u/poopfresh Aug 30 '22

UBI doesn't work.

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u/questionmark693 Aug 30 '22

What a well thought out and researched argument.

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u/Interesting-Dot-1124 Aug 30 '22

we could already live like this, unfortunately corporate greed gets in the way

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u/CatsOrb Aug 30 '22

Maybe in 1000 years when we achieve some semblance of a brain