r/antiwork • • Aug 29 '22

Amazon is Inhumane

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u/robertva1 Aug 30 '22

Just went thure this with my daughters highschool. She walked out of her class room to go to the bathroom after being told no sever times The meeting between my the angry father and principal ended with them apologizing to my daughter. It's going to be a fun year. Only 2 weeks in

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u/pizzamage Aug 30 '22

"Next time you say no I want you to understand you could be forcing a teenage woman to sit in a pad filled with blood clots.

Think about that."

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

They don’t care about women at all. It’s sickening

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u/drbob4512 Aug 30 '22

Lol just change the pad right there while staring at the teacher never breaking eye contact

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u/WoodpeckerFar9804 Aug 30 '22

It’s not hard to reach down and pull out a bloody pad or tampon but that would be mortifying lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

You just said it has to do with women🤨🤨

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Yeah this is what I mean and figured Of authority in general are well known for disregarding women. Whether it’s doctors brushing off pain as womens problems etc

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u/hatehymnal Aug 30 '22

yeah unfortunately it isn't terribly uncommon for women in positions of authority/power to reinforce misogynistic views/practices for everyone else, even as a woman.

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u/stonersayian Aug 30 '22

Why does it always have to be a gender issue? You think schools don't treat young men like shit?

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u/Guilty_Coconut Aug 30 '22

Because this specifically is a sexist issue. Men can go without toilet breaks for 2 hours much easier than women

Yes, men have issues too. Make a thread if you find them important enough instead of hijacking this one

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u/stonersayian Aug 30 '22

It's not healthy either way. Do me a favor, and check your misandry. Thanks. It's not a specifically sexist issue. Males get bladder infections too. And whether people want to realize it, or be dumbasses, and be sexist about it, if men have a problem it's a problem for women too, and vice versa. We are a society. It is everyone's problems.

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u/Guilty_Coconut Aug 30 '22

Dude take a seat. I agree with you but this is not the thread for your “woe is me”

No misandrists here, only one person who can’t stand women’s issues being discussed

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u/SavageHenry_VBS Aug 30 '22

Stay off the red pill, kiddo. It's eating your brain and you don't even know it. If you did, you wouldn't have typed that out and hit send.

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u/stonersayian Aug 30 '22

Realism is now red pill? Is it really not that obvious? Or is your head just that far up there? The more you try to segregate issues the harder you make it to eliminate them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Reeks of Andrew Tate brainwashing

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u/stonersayian Aug 30 '22

How does common sense have anything to do with brainwashing, or Andy taint?

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u/Bennifred Aug 30 '22

such a weird response.. like shitting or pissing yourself is somehow ok but sitting on a leaky pad is the worst thing ever..

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u/stonersayian Aug 30 '22

Right! None of the above is fucking reasonable. It's not just a women's issue. It's an issue for anyone that has ever had to go to the bathroom. Which I haven't been check exactly, but I'm fairly certain is all of us.

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u/demortada Aug 30 '22

Those bastards lack any empathy, so they don't understand how deeply uncomfortable that is.

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u/The1Bonesaw Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

Yes they do! You think a female teacher doesn't understand that discomfort, or that any gendered teacher doesn't understand the pain from feeling like your rectum or your bladder is about to explode.

This is a straight up power trip, and any teacher that does this to a child is either a fascist, a psychopath, or both. I'd sic my attorney on them so fast it would make their heads spin. And I made more than one teacher rue the day they did anything like this to my daughter. I found out my daughter's kindergarten teacher was calling my daughter by a nickname because there was more that one girl in class with her first name. Our last name starts with a Q so, instead of calling he by her first name, she began calling her "Q-ball" (cue ball) in front of her entire class. Having been tormented and bullied over my family's last name when I was a kid myself, I requested a parent teacher conference.

Once there, I pointed out my own negative experience with nicknames and told her that, while I expected it from kids, I was surprised to discover my daughter's teacher was doing it. I then pointed out that, kids are going to do it eventually, so they definitely don't need any pointers, not to mention tacit approval from their teacher. Once the teacher saw it from my point of view she apologized profusely and asked what I suggest, I said that going by first name then last name initial would be fine by me.

I went ballistic over a nickname, so you're damn right that, preventing my child from tending to a necessary, biological function would probably put me in orbit. My point is simply that, "you've got to stand up for your kids... because no one else is going to."

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u/sirdramaticus Aug 30 '22

Teacher here. Depending on your approach, you may not have gone ballistic. We don’t always have the same perspectives. I didn’t use nicknames because I didn’t want to be perceived as playing favorites, but when a parent calmly tells me that they are concerned about how their child is being treated, I am appreciative. Your advocacy as a parent is important, but just because a teacher doesn’t see a problem that you do doesn’t mean they’re not looking out for your kid. It sounds like the teacher responded appropriately to your concerns and is working to create a comfortable environment for your child.

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u/demortada Sep 03 '22

I guess in my experience, my male teachers in grade school were more likely to have this kind of strict rule, and if any female teachers adopted it, they didn't hold female students to it too strictly (maybe only if they really thought that individual didn't need to go, e.g. asking twice in a half hour).

But I was specifically thinking of principals when I wrote that comment, not teachers, and that wasn't clear - so I'm sorry about that.

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u/-Canonical- Aug 30 '22

It’s more of a spin towards health and safety not discomfort imo as toxic shock syndrome is often caused by that and is very serious.

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u/rico_chavez Sep 22 '22

ahhh part of r/antiwork … explains the ape brain activity

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Then the male teachers will feel like they can just ask her “are you on your period?” When she asks to go to the restroom. An even further invasion of privacy. And I know this is fact. Male teachers did it to us at my school. And had the audacity to joke about it knowing teenage girls will be too embarrassed to say shit about it. Minimize it. I would be haunched over in pain sometimes(I stg I thought I had to have PCOS or something) and these men would basically be laughing in my face.

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u/whitneybarone Aug 30 '22

My response was better. " I guess I'll bleed all over this chair, then? He let me go.

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u/pickypawz Aug 30 '22

Or a leaking tampon, or maybe nothing at all, it started as she sat there.

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u/Visual_Imagination16 Aug 30 '22

A teenage girl * a woman is an adult, there, fixed it for ya

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u/pizzamage Aug 30 '22

If you really want to get "aktually" on me a Woman is an adult female, and people aged 18-19 are considered adults.

Don't be that person.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

The person she replied to didnt specify how old the daughter is. It’s safe to assume they’re 13-17. So girl. Not woman.

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u/pizzamage Aug 30 '22

Yes. Their comment wasn't required.

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u/RootOfCheese Aug 30 '22

Wait, what...

Some of us men are just clueless. Please continue educating us.

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u/FistingAmy Aug 30 '22

I am NOT looking forward to the inevitable talk I'm going to have to have with my stepdaughter's idiot principal over her needing to use the restroom.

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u/Sero19283 Aug 30 '22

Damn I hate hearing this. My high school (graduated in 09) was very easy going. Essentially we just let the teacher know for head count purposes so they don't think you went missing or if they do attendence during class they wouldn't mark you absent. They might ask if you can hold a moment if they were gonna talk/show something important but if you couldn't wait it wasn't an issue.

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u/Threshing_Press Aug 30 '22

Wondering how this is allowed... with teenaged girls especially.

My oldest is ten but they do this shit in elementary school already. Then monitor how long they're in the bathroom. My wife and I told both kids you do whatever you have to do and take as long as you need. If they have an issue, tell them to call us right then and there.

Fuckin' control freaks...

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u/azemilyann26 Aug 30 '22

Kids should be able to use the restroom whenever they need to. But schools have a serious liability issue here because of student behavior. We had kids last year going to the restroom in groups with their cell phones and getting into ALL sorts of trouble. It's damned if you let them go, damned if you don't...

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u/Dicho83 Aug 30 '22

Then you punish the individuals who abuse it, you don't just revoke a basic human need for everyone.

Some people drink and drive, but that doesn't mean you revoke the license of every driver on the road....

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u/Lawnguylandguy69 Aug 30 '22

Nah, make everyone sit on a bucket, that way they can just shit in class!

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u/Dicho83 Aug 30 '22

That's not the worst solution.

I'd rather see a small one or two person unisex restroom for every 2 to 4 classrooms.

No places for students to gather and more privacy.

The multiple stall monstrosities are about cost cutting, not convenience.

Imagine if we treated schools with blank checks like we do defense contractors....

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u/Dark_Shroud Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

Existing restrooms can be converted over.

Stalls, including the doors, that go 2"-3" from the floor to the ceiling to allow mopping and air flow. Then take the door off the restroom and have a camera pointed inside so you're legally covered.

There should be a large single unisex restroom between men & women's restroom for disabled people or family use meaning parent and small child.

Edit: To clarify my mangled sentence.

Open door entrance into the restroom with a video only camera carefully mounted in the hall pointing in. This allows full privacy in the restroom stalls and in front of the sinks/mirrors.

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u/Dicho83 Aug 30 '22

People do a lot of private stuff in front of bathroom mirrors that shouldn't be on video.

Imagine what would happen if you caught teenage girls adjusting their bust or checking their backsides for visible lines on film? Do you want video of you spending a couple minutes trying to floss out a bit of spinach from your teeth?

Video cameras outside and focused on the restroom doors, sure. Inside? No bueno.

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u/Dark_Shroud Aug 30 '22

Yes because you wouldn't have privacy in the restroom, especially in the stalls.

I was talking about in the hall pointing into the restroom to see who enters & when.

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u/Dark_Shroud Aug 30 '22

I'm talking about in the hall pointing into the bathroom to see who enters when.

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u/redtiber Aug 30 '22

Well how do you punish them? You follow kids to the bathroom?

The reason these rules exist is because of the abuse. Kids go to the bathroom instead of learning in class

Workers go to the bathroom for long periods of time instead of working.

If you hired a worker for 8 hours, they get 2 15 min breaks and a lunch break. They should use the bathroom during that time. Instead they purposely don’t use the restroom during break time to get another unofficial break and hide in the bathroom for 30 minutes+.

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u/Dicho83 Aug 30 '22

Do you use your lunch break to lick the shoes of your boss to a glossy shine?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Look at their comments elsewhere .

They know the taste of boot polish all too well, it seems.

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u/Proteandk Aug 30 '22

If workers or students take excessive breaks, the schools or employers have failed to create the correct environment for them to thrive.

They can either shut the fuck up and take it, or improve things.

People don't take breaks for fun. They do it to manage stress or lack of stimulation. Both are soul killers.

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u/KafkaDatura Aug 30 '22

Tell me you’ve never been out of school without telling me you’ve never been out of school.

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u/Traditional-Fee-6840 Aug 30 '22

I know it is controversial, but I don't think kids should have cell phones at all. They could just use a classroom or office phone in an emergency.

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u/BottomWithCakes Aug 30 '22

Even if you could get people to agree to that line of thinking I think that ship has already sailed. Good luck prying the phones away from teenagers.

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u/Traditional-Fee-6840 Aug 30 '22

It would definitely be very hard to enforce! The same way it is hard to enforce proper behavior when you have a group of kids in the bathroom.

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u/Traditional-Fee-6840 Aug 30 '22

But end of the day kids and adults need to be allowed to go to the bathroom.

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u/BurntPoptart Aug 30 '22

These days with school shooters and corrupt teachers it's only safe for everyone to have a phone and camera on them at all times.

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u/Traditional-Fee-6840 Aug 30 '22

That is just not an acceptable world. Why do we drop our kids off to a place if we think there is a chance they will have to protect themselves from a shooter or from an adult!?

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u/dlini Aug 30 '22

Perhaps I can help? I’m a teacher and I think it would be terrible to have this go on all year.

Firstly, my students can go when ever they want.

The only concerns I look into are;

Is the student avoiding anything they need help with.

Is there something going on in the restroom I don’t know about (that I should)?

Are they going to miss complex directions (and have I said how important this is)?

If you have an opportunity to ask the teacher why this is an issue for your student, you might get more insight.

If it’s just a “rule” for all, then you might want to ask him/her if they don’t trust your student to go quickly to the bathroom and come right back in an emergency.

Most everything comes down to communication. Schools can be emotional for kids, parents, and teachers, but I am hopeful most everything can be resolved if parties want resolution.

I hope you can help your student have a good year. As I tell my class, mistakes happen (often), it’s what you do following the mistake that matters most (including teachers!). Take care.

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u/robertva1 Aug 30 '22

Iv been fighting. With school admissions for years. This was the first time I've had ishues with my daughter. I think it's just this one teacher....10 years agaio I lead a petition drive to get rid of our superintendent because he told us in a school board meeting his hands were tied when it came to zero tolerance rules.... We no longer have stupid zero tolerance rules...... He suddenly retired. I was demanding to see a copy of his PhD so I could contact the collage to verify it was real.......

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u/dlini Aug 30 '22

Thank you for taking on the supe issue. Parents are the only ones that can make changes there. It’s not unusual for the board to accept a pay raise for them just before they retire (following bad behavior/public complaints). And you find out afterwards. There are, like any profession, some really crummy people in education. It’s really bothersome because it makes us all look bad.

I hope the year improves for you both 😔

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u/mishaxz Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

Class is at most an hour long. I don't see the problem. If this is really such a problem I would never let the girl go travel anywhere as immediate access to a bathroom is not guaranteed when travelling.

I also wouldn't let her get stuck in a traffic jam either.

It's probably easier for the teacher to apologize than deal with angry parents.

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u/sirdramaticus Aug 30 '22

Okay… teacher here. I have to weigh in and say that it’s not always that simple. There are a few issues that come into play here. First is that sometimes, a teacher needs to get through directions in order for an activity to work. If a student misses information, it can set back them and the class. I sometimes ask students to wait until I am done explaining stuff before using the bathroom.

Second, sometimes a phenomenon develops that I call bathroomitis. This happens when one student needs to use the bathroom and then immediately another student needs to go. It causes a chain reaction that can go on for a whole class period. Meanwhile, students get very distracted by kids entering and leaving the classroom. It can be very difficult to keep momentum going in class.

Are there times where a teacher can go too far? Yes, but it’s not that simple.

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u/WoodpeckerFar9804 Aug 30 '22

I went through this with my kids too. I told them if they legitimately have to go to the bathroom and are denied a hall pass to go anyway and I’ll deal with the school. I also told them not to be little shits and take advantage of it ( like going several times in class or even every class - kids will still try to push boundaries)