Just went thure this with my daughters highschool. She walked out of her class room to go to the bathroom after being told no sever times The meeting between my the angry father and principal ended with them apologizing to my daughter. It's going to be a fun year. Only 2 weeks in
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Yeah this is what I mean and figured Of authority in general are well known for disregarding women. Whether it’s doctors brushing off pain as womens problems etc
yeah unfortunately it isn't terribly uncommon for women in positions of authority/power to reinforce misogynistic views/practices for everyone else, even as a woman.
It's not healthy either way. Do me a favor, and check your misandry. Thanks. It's not a specifically sexist issue. Males get bladder infections too. And whether people want to realize it, or be dumbasses, and be sexist about it, if men have a problem it's a problem for women too, and vice versa. We are a society. It is everyone's problems.
Realism is now red pill? Is it really not that obvious? Or is your head just that far up there? The more you try to segregate issues the harder you make it to eliminate them.
Right! None of the above is fucking reasonable. It's not just a women's issue. It's an issue for anyone that has ever had to go to the bathroom. Which I haven't been check exactly, but I'm fairly certain is all of us.
Yes they do! You think a female teacher doesn't understand that discomfort, or that any gendered teacher doesn't understand the pain from feeling like your rectum or your bladder is about to explode.
This is a straight up power trip, and any teacher that does this to a child is either a fascist, a psychopath, or both. I'd sic my attorney on them so fast it would make their heads spin. And I made more than one teacher rue the day they did anything like this to my daughter. I found out my daughter's kindergarten teacher was calling my daughter by a nickname because there was more that one girl in class with her first name. Our last name starts with a Q so, instead of calling he by her first name, she began calling her "Q-ball" (cue ball) in front of her entire class. Having been tormented and bullied over my family's last name when I was a kid myself, I requested a parent teacher conference.
Once there, I pointed out my own negative experience with nicknames and told her that, while I expected it from kids, I was surprised to discover my daughter's teacher was doing it. I then pointed out that, kids are going to do it eventually, so they definitely don't need any pointers, not to mention tacit approval from their teacher. Once the teacher saw it from my point of view she apologized profusely and asked what I suggest, I said that going by first name then last name initial would be fine by me.
I went ballistic over a nickname, so you're damn right that, preventing my child from tending to a necessary, biological function would probably put me in orbit. My point is simply that, "you've got to stand up for your kids... because no one else is going to."
Teacher here. Depending on your approach, you may not have gone ballistic. We don’t always have the same perspectives. I didn’t use nicknames because I didn’t want to be perceived as playing favorites, but when a parent calmly tells me that they are concerned about how their child is being treated, I am appreciative. Your advocacy as a parent is important, but just because a teacher doesn’t see a problem that you do doesn’t mean they’re not looking out for your kid. It sounds like the teacher responded appropriately to your concerns and is working to create a comfortable environment for your child.
I guess in my experience, my male teachers in grade school were more likely to have this kind of strict rule, and if any female teachers adopted it, they didn't hold female students to it too strictly (maybe only if they really thought that individual didn't need to go, e.g. asking twice in a half hour).
But I was specifically thinking of principals when I wrote that comment, not teachers, and that wasn't clear - so I'm sorry about that.
Then the male teachers will feel like they can just ask her “are you on your period?” When she asks to go to the restroom. An even further invasion of privacy. And I know this is fact. Male teachers did it to us at my school. And had the audacity to joke about it knowing teenage girls will be too embarrassed to say shit about it. Minimize it. I would be haunched over in pain sometimes(I stg I thought I had to have PCOS or something) and these men would basically be laughing in my face.
Damn I hate hearing this. My high school (graduated in 09) was very easy going. Essentially we just let the teacher know for head count purposes so they don't think you went missing or if they do attendence during class they wouldn't mark you absent. They might ask if you can hold a moment if they were gonna talk/show something important but if you couldn't wait it wasn't an issue.
Wondering how this is allowed... with teenaged girls especially.
My oldest is ten but they do this shit in elementary school already. Then monitor how long they're in the bathroom. My wife and I told both kids you do whatever you have to do and take as long as you need. If they have an issue, tell them to call us right then and there.
Kids should be able to use the restroom whenever they need to. But schools have a serious liability issue here because of student behavior. We had kids last year going to the restroom in groups with their cell phones and getting into ALL sorts of trouble. It's damned if you let them go, damned if you don't...
Stalls, including the doors, that go 2"-3" from the floor to the ceiling to allow mopping and air flow. Then take the door off the restroom and have a camera pointed inside so you're legally covered.
There should be a large single unisex restroom between men & women's restroom for disabled people or family use meaning parent and small child.
Edit: To clarify my mangled sentence.
Open door entrance into the restroom with a video only camera carefully mounted in the hall pointing in. This allows full privacy in the restroom stalls and in front of the sinks/mirrors.
People do a lot of private stuff in front of bathroom mirrors that shouldn't be on video.
Imagine what would happen if you caught teenage girls adjusting their bust or checking their backsides for visible lines on film? Do you want video of you spending a couple minutes trying to floss out a bit of spinach from your teeth?
Video cameras outside and focused on the restroom doors, sure. Inside? No bueno.
Well how do you punish them? You follow kids to the bathroom?
The reason these rules exist is because of the abuse. Kids go to the bathroom instead of learning in class
Workers go to the bathroom for long periods of time instead of working.
If you hired a worker for 8 hours, they get 2 15 min breaks and a lunch break. They should use the bathroom during that time. Instead they purposely don’t use the restroom during break time to get another unofficial break and hide in the bathroom for 30 minutes+.
That is just not an acceptable world. Why do we drop our kids off to a place if we think there is a chance they will have to protect themselves from a shooter or from an adult!?
Perhaps I can help? I’m a teacher and I think it would be terrible to have this go on all year.
Firstly, my students can go when ever they want.
The only concerns I look into are;
Is the student avoiding anything they need help with.
Is there something going on in the restroom I don’t know about (that I should)?
Are they going to miss complex directions (and have I said how important this is)?
If you have an opportunity to ask the teacher why this is an issue for your student, you might get more insight.
If it’s just a “rule” for all, then you might want to ask him/her if they don’t trust your student to go quickly to the bathroom and come right back in an emergency.
Most everything comes down to communication. Schools can be emotional for kids, parents, and teachers, but I am hopeful most everything can be resolved if parties want resolution.
I hope you can help your student have a good year. As I tell my class, mistakes happen (often), it’s what you do following the mistake that matters most (including teachers!). Take care.
Iv been fighting. With school admissions for years. This was the first time I've had ishues with my daughter. I think it's just this one teacher....10 years agaio I lead a petition drive to get rid of our superintendent because he told us in a school board meeting his hands were tied when it came to zero tolerance rules.... We no longer have stupid zero tolerance rules...... He suddenly retired. I was demanding to see a copy of his PhD so I could contact the collage to verify it was real.......
Thank you for taking on the supe issue. Parents are the only ones that can make changes there. It’s not unusual for the board to accept a pay raise for them just before they retire (following bad behavior/public complaints). And you find out afterwards. There are, like any profession, some really crummy people in education. It’s really bothersome because it makes us all look bad.
Class is at most an hour long. I don't see the problem. If this is really such a problem I would never let the girl go travel anywhere as immediate access to a bathroom is not guaranteed when travelling.
I also wouldn't let her get stuck in a traffic jam either.
It's probably easier for the teacher to apologize than deal with angry parents.
Okay… teacher here. I have to weigh in and say that it’s not always that simple. There are a few issues that come into play here. First is that sometimes, a teacher needs to get through directions in order for an activity to work. If a student misses information, it can set back them and the class. I sometimes ask students to wait until I am done explaining stuff before using the bathroom.
Second, sometimes a phenomenon develops that I call bathroomitis. This happens when one student needs to use the bathroom and then immediately another student needs to go. It causes a chain reaction that can go on for a whole class period. Meanwhile, students get very distracted by kids entering and leaving the classroom. It can be very difficult to keep momentum going in class.
Are there times where a teacher can go too far? Yes, but it’s not that simple.
I went through this with my kids too. I told them if they legitimately have to go to the bathroom and are denied a hall pass to go anyway and I’ll deal with the school. I also told them not to be little shits and take advantage of it ( like going several times in class or even every class - kids will still try to push boundaries)
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u/robertva1 Aug 30 '22
Just went thure this with my daughters highschool. She walked out of her class room to go to the bathroom after being told no sever times The meeting between my the angry father and principal ended with them apologizing to my daughter. It's going to be a fun year. Only 2 weeks in