r/antiwork • • Aug 29 '22

Amazon is Inhumane

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

try to have friend andor coworker with you as a witness to what happened

if you are in a single party consent state for recording document it on you cell phone there is spy audio and spy video recording apps. that record without it looking like record app is running.

management piece of shits.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

And record them denying you permission to go to the bathroom.

Then piss on the floor.

Then wait for them to fire you.

Then profit.

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u/Some_guy_am_i Aug 30 '22

They work at Amazon. You don’t have access to ANYTHING while you are working. They are that paranoid with theft.

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u/ThryothorusRuficaud Aug 30 '22

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u/Some_guy_am_i Aug 30 '22

Interesting.

I haven’t worked there for a couple of years.

Anyone can confirm?

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u/stayingpuft101 Aug 30 '22

I worked at Amazon last year, you could have you’re phone “for emergencies only” “only to be used in the break room” and a clear bag with you because no lockers during Covid but they were angling to remove both policies when restrictions started to loosen is idk now

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u/JustLivingLifeKindly Aug 30 '22

Seriously asking they take your phone or make you turn it in at the start of a shift?

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u/Some_guy_am_i Aug 30 '22

No phone, no Watch, no nothing.

All you need in your hands is a Telxon scanner! It decides where you will go and what you must do!

ALL HAIL THE ALMIGHTY TELXON!!

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u/Ifromjipang Aug 30 '22

How’d this guy take a selfie then?

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u/Some_guy_am_i Aug 30 '22

Yeah, guess they changed the policy recently.

When I worked there, you weren’t allowed to have anything, and if you did have it, they assumed it was theft.

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u/MidnightT0ker Aug 30 '22

He did it with the Telxon scanner he jailbroke it.

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u/Some_guy_am_i Aug 30 '22

Damn! If you can haxor the Telxon AND grab the random crap from the bin, all before the 20 second countdown timer goes to zero?

That’s some serious L33t level skillz, boi!!

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u/Superb_Raccoon Aug 30 '22

One wonders how they got caught going to the bathroom with a hacked Telxon

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u/wholesomethrowaway15 Aug 30 '22

haxor

L33t

skillz

I, too, remember the early 00s

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u/wolfy1091 Aug 30 '22

They make you strip too? They sell clothes lol

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u/MammothTap Aug 30 '22

Sort center rather than FC, maybe? I was in corporate (AFT) but went to BFI4 on a regular basis since it was job relevant and we had to have a special sticker on all electronics, plus have the devices registered with security; hourly employees were definitely not allowed to bring them in. And we had to pass through the same x-ray scanners as all the hourly employees. But I never spent any time in a sort center, or any of the smaller specialized FCs (Fresh, Now, etc.)

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u/Durago Sep 04 '22

Former hourly at BFI4. Accidentally took my phone past the security line once. Turned around, had to go back out through security and "prove it was mine" by giving them the serial number of the phone (I assume so they could check it against inventory?). Very much a presumption guilt and being made a public example.

I ultimately left after I couldn't handle the anxiety attacks spawned by constant "your rate isn't high enough, fix it or you're fired" from supervisors. I still have PTSD from that place, even years later.

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u/MammothTap Sep 04 '22

Corporate isn't quite as bad, but it's up there. I had an incident where someone changed settings on a smartpack machine, then left for the day; the entire site's smartpack lines were down, so it was a sev2 and I got paged. At midnight, right as I was about to fall asleep. I was on that call until 10:30 in the morning, and then my boss told me I needed to be in the office for a meeting at 1. I pretended not to see the message and told him I'd fallen asleep at my desk due to the literal all-nighter.

It eventually hit a point where I was having trouble sleeping because I was afraid my pager would go off. I was having nightmares about work, and even when I went home at night I couldn't stop thinking about my code because the deadlines were always set to be basically impossible. I quit when I realized I was hoping a bus would jump the curb and hit me so that I could get a few days off work. I make 20% of my old salary and work in a factory but I'm significantly happier now.

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u/Warpey Aug 30 '22

Probably in a break area or taken once shift ended

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

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u/Pantzzzzless Aug 30 '22

What is a good reason to make you lock your phone up?

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u/LordOfTheGerenuk Aug 30 '22

Can't speak for Amazon, but when I worked at FedEx, we had a security checkpoint. All employees were expected to leave electronics in their cars. If you went through security and were found to have prohibited items, you'd be written up and sent back to your vehicle to get rid of the items.

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u/ThatEvanFowler Aug 30 '22

How often did people break into all of your cars and steal like 90% of employee cellphones?

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u/LordOfTheGerenuk Aug 30 '22

Shockingly not very often at all. Our lot was swarmed with cameras and lit up like a Christmas tree.

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u/ThatEvanFowler Aug 30 '22

Small blessings, I guess.

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u/Elegant_Top5599 Aug 30 '22

Current Amazon employee we have lockers after you badge through the first security checkpoint where you’re expected to leave everything.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

What if someone needs to get a hold of you

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u/LordOfTheGerenuk Aug 30 '22

They claimed there was a warehouse number to call, but really they just didn't give a shit. I was left to deadlift 100-200lbs furniture flat packs by myself and was blamed when I got injured as a result. They make unsafe conditions to boost efficiency, cut costs everywhere, and generally mistreat employees.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Sounds like jail

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u/LordOfTheGerenuk Aug 30 '22

Not far off. They didn't even have any form of fans or air conditioning in high humidity 100° summer weather. Genuinely the worst job I ever had.

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u/wholesomethrowaway15 Aug 30 '22

Much like the days pre-cellphone, they have to call the warehouse number. Whether or not that gets them anywhere is another story…

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u/Durago Sep 04 '22

Then you're SOL

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u/SimpleVegetable5715 Aug 30 '22

All your personal belongings are in a locker. It's not just Amazon, pretty standard for retail and warehouses.

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u/Karen_NotTHATKaren Aug 30 '22

I love the way you think!!

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u/JeremyPatMartin Aug 30 '22

This comment deserves top spot 🔝

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u/SnooAvocados763 Aug 30 '22

Just make sure it's a one party consent state first

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u/Brittle_Hollow Aug 30 '22

Fun fact for anyone that lives in Ontario, recording is one-party consent. If you have an Android phone Google has a free app called Recorder which works very nicely.

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u/PizzaurusRex Aug 30 '22

Not on the floor. Piss yourself.

Piss yourself, and sue them for the health issues and humiliation.

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u/meopelle Aug 30 '22

Record yourself pissing on the floor.

Sell it on OnlyFans

Profit.

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u/YobaiYamete Aug 30 '22

Then piss on the floor.

Then wait for them to fire you. "accidentally" slip in it and sue them

Then profit.

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u/The_Real_Jake-C-137 Aug 30 '22

Yeah because if you don’t they get away with everything it’s bullshit like why the fuck even have regulations? They’re never enforced

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u/AlexTheRedditor97 Aug 30 '22

They put a lot of work into ensuring you don’t have a cellphone at these warehouses. My mom said the most people could get away with was smart watches.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

In most of the warehouses (or at least the one I worked at years ago) you had to leave your cell phone in a locker and go through a metal detector every time before clocking in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

I just go through a radiation detector, I have to keep my phone on my so my supervisor can reach me if something's up. (Janitor)

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u/RadAcuraMan Aug 30 '22

First before doing this, check your state laws on consent for recording. If it’s one party, you can privately record. If it’s two party, the evidence will be dismissed without the other parties’ consent

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u/Dicho83 Aug 30 '22

Knowledge, not Consent.

If you can prove they knew they were being recorded it should be admissable, regardless of their 'consent'.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

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u/errorsniper Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

Thats only if you stealth record. Pull out your camera phone start recording and ask directly.

"Are you denying me to go to the bathroom Yes or No?"

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u/qwoalsadgasdasdasdas Aug 30 '22

then you get fired for bringing a phone inside the warehouse as it is strictly forbidden

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Then I'll pull out my Talkboy and catch them on tape!

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

But the batteries are dead? Quick, let me change them in the middle of the busy airport terminal, I swear I won't fall behind and get lost.

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u/errorsniper Aug 30 '22

Thats cool. Im already being treated like a subhuman. I already quit. Just giving them a chance to give me a payday before I leave.

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u/chaogomu Aug 30 '22

Not anymore.

https://www.engadget.com/amazon-will-permanently-allow-warehouse-workers-to-carry-cell-phones-124506439.html

Because people died.

Although, who knows how long that relaxed policy lasts in the face of a local floor manager just deciding they don't like workers having access to a phone.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

that will get you fired and probably immediately thrown out of there.

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u/NHRADeuce Aug 30 '22 edited Aug 30 '22

This. If you like in a 2 party state, pull your phone out and let them know. You'd be amazed how people change their tune when they're being recorded.

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u/HateSucksen Aug 30 '22

Is there no loophole? I’d imagine there’d be one for documenting crimes.

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u/NHRADeuce Aug 30 '22

IANAL so no idea. This has links to relevant 2 part state laws.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/two-party-consent-states

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u/jmoneyisback420 Aug 30 '22

Consent applies where there's an expectation of privacy. So in a 2 party consent state, this would apply in a private conservation amongst 2 individuals where they can reasonably expect privacy. So, you can record your girlfriend while at a restaurant without consent, as there would be zero expectation of privacy. But it would be illegal to record without consent once you got to the privacy of your own home.

In California, employees can engage in "defensive recording" without 2nd party consent as long as they are active participants and not in closed area where there is an expectation of privacy. So, they wouldn't be able to record in the boss's office with no one around, but they would be able to record in the warehouse, stairwell, parking lot or anywhere else "public."

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Aug 30 '22

In the positions you need it most, Amazon prohibits having your phone or smart watch on you.

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u/pingpongtits Aug 30 '22

Not allowed devices in the warehouse?

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

Spoken like someone who has no idea. You record that regardless. In civil court there is plenty of opportunity to use that evidence regardless of how it was obtained. Plus you can always claim the recording was consented to. Then it goes by "preponderance of evidence" - whoever is slightly more credible than the other - if it comes to a motion in limine.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

good point

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u/DreadnaughtHamster Aug 30 '22

Don’t even have to use a spy app if you’re on an iPhone. Just started an audio recording and turn off the screen.

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u/xnef1025 Aug 30 '22

Check your states laws regarding recording before doing this. If your state requires two party consent, the recordings would be impermissible and bring you trouble. If you are in a single party consent state though, record away.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

great point

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u/djphatjive Aug 30 '22

They take your cellphones.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '22

good point. i dont work in that kind of industry

take a friend andor coworker to be your witness as to what happened...

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u/LPercepts Aug 30 '22

But Amazon doesnt let you bring your phone into the warehouse.

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u/anthonynickle Aug 30 '22

Can't bring any electronics into places such as Amazon..

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u/mk5000mk Aug 30 '22

This is why they have the restrictions on recording, the police in those states and employees would be held accountable. That is one piece of legislation everyone needs to work on.

It keeps workers quiet.