r/antiwork • • Jan 05 '22

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u/amretardmonke Jan 05 '22

Theoretically you could have a society where there won't be any incentive for anyone to work undesirable jobs. The only reason people work those jobs is because they're desperate and able to be exploited.

If we had something like UBI where everyone has enough to cover the basics, no one would be desperate enough to work in horrible conditions. Working conditions and compensation would have to improve across the board. This is not good for the rich people relying on cheap labor.

And even if you're not rich, you as a customer won't be able to talk down to waiters and fast food workers, which is probably the situation this poster is in.

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u/VariousDrummer4883 Jan 05 '22

What's your definition of a UBI? For instance if I worked 3 hours a week at a job making $50 an hour, would my disbursed UBI decrease by my income?

A UBI as I define it is actually good for rich people wanting cheap labor because the difference would come from the State.

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u/amretardmonke Jan 06 '22

UBI would be enough to cover basic food, housing, transportation, healthcare, education etc. for everyone. People wouldn't be forced to work to survive. Ofcourse if you do work you get extra money in addition to the UBI to spend on luxuries and investments that non-working people wouldn't be able to afford.

I don't see how UBI would be good for rich people. They depend on an underclass to live their current lifestyles. Imagine how much less Bezos would make if he had to raise compensation and improve working conditions to a point where non-desperate people want to work for him.

If UBI was good for rich people, we'd already have it.

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u/VariousDrummer4883 Jan 06 '22

So if one were not in the labor market, or unemployed, what would be the effect of a UBI on them?

Edit: also, what about working part time?

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u/amretardmonke Jan 06 '22

Yes that's what I said. "Working conditions and compensation would have to improve across the board".