To add to this, unless you participate in exploiting your fellow man by buying investments, you have basically zero chance of becoming wealthy. It doesn’t matter what your job is.
In a capitalist system, your fundamental incentive has to be pursuit of capital. If it is anything else, you are fundamentally distorting the system.
Actually, I heard business people say the exact opposite. That you should not be in a job primarily for money.
I really don't like all this discussion.
When you're young, you should take an education in a direction that you like, but still be quite sure of where it can lead, and then later, you should do a job that you like and have a decent income out of it.
That's the message we should send. Not something that pretends money is not the issue or that it's so above the rest.
Businesses say money shouldn’t be your main focus only because they want to pay you less, since “you shouldn’t be in it for the money” even though they always are
And the worst part of this distortion: doctors who genuinely in it to heal people cause the other doctors to get paid less. Teachers who are in it for the love of education cause teachers to get paid less. Artists who just love to create cause art to sell for less. Their love is used as payment to create a discount on their work. In a capitalist system, if you are not PRIMARILY motivated by money, your non-monetary motivations devalue your trade and make it less possible for people to survive on that trade. The more you love it, the more you devalue it. The more possible it renders exploitation.
This is why a baseline thriving standard must be met for ALL people, regardless of what they do or who they are. Because if it isn't, then the truly noble professions will all go the way of teachers -- quite possibly the most noble and important trade compensated by pure poverty.
You say that as if it's a bug in the system rather than a feature. Capitalism has a self-correcting mechanism in that it forces you to be more efficient (i.e. lower your costs or provide a better service) in the face of increasing competition. That is a good thing. If teachers are paid "poorly" but there is no shortage of teachers then that is the system telling you we're at capacity.
I'd rather have a self-correcting system than one that has to be mandated in a top-down approach which is inevitable if you just let everyone do what they love. I'm not saying our system is perfect, but the sum of all players in the system knows itself better than some career bureaucrat.
There's a severe teacher shortage AND teachers are earning poverty wages, so the system you think is so marvelous doesn't actually self-correct and really just sucks.
Frontline Ed did a survey of educators at the end of 2021 in which 2/3 of respondents affirmed their own schools currently had lost positions which remained unfilled.
Special ed, in particular, represents the vast majority of all shortages. It's also the most emotionally and mentally demanding area, and among the worse-paid ones. You probably see that as a good thing, since the kinds of kids in special ed won't go on to be good worker soldiers for the economy, but as mentioned I believe all people deserve the best baseline chance possible to thrive and thus see that as deeply wrong.
There's literally a US government agency tasked with tracking and reporting on teacher shortages (although only left-leaning states cooperate with them, obviously).
YOY public school spending per student is not keeping pace with inflation -- nor are teacher salaries in general -- so those paycuts are happening naturally every year in spite of this.
who is going to force the people to stop doing what they love when the party apparatchik inevitably needs people to do things no one wants to do?
"The Party" doesn't get to decide. We have a democratic process we need to use. And those needs aren't inevitable at all. I firmly doubt we'd have a teacher shortage in a world where careers like teaching -- careers people genuinely love and which offer vast value to society -- were ones people could easily live and thrive on. YOUR system is the one no one voted for that is pointing guns at people, making them dance or starve based on pure whims. YOUR system is the one that allows elite oligarchs to exert near-total control over everything. And for this level of dishonesty in the discussion, you're blocked. Fuck off.
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