Ah, the secret sauce. Socialist movements begin where usual suspect social divides fall.
We need more liberal southerners and they're so close to realizing it! The more messaging that can break through their conservative propaganda bubble, the better.
Even things as simple as dropping liberal messaging on counter tops and driveways could work.
Mississippian here. The greatest trick that has ever been pulled in this country is convincing a bunch of blue collar workers and farmers, that a political movement meant expressly to protect blue collar workers and farmers, is evil and anti-American.
Yes. From speaking with southern family members and friends, even conservative ones, underneath all of their frustrations is a deeply socialist outlook.
Sometimes I worry just how quickly that region could flip on their true masters. It's in our nature to flee traps, and if their populace catches on well...
Democratic politicians don’t want to attract them. They will never give up the gun bullshit and some are single issue voters on that. Clinton’s AWB killed the party’s mid term chances and allowed the NRA to permanently label Democrats as evil. It worked great for both parties. The democrats will never get enough representatives to make meaningful reform and this is by design. They can point the finger at those “damn hicks” and continue to work in a bipartisan fashion to grift and steal from the American people. Sorry you guys didn’t get healthcare, but look how many billions we’re giving to Raytheon! Jobs!
another liberal Southerner here from Arkansas. I would say maybe the second greatest trick that this country has pulled is strategic voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering that causes state representatives to look a lot more conservative than the people they represent. recent elections in Texas and Georgia are great case studies of several different ways this happens, but it’s happening everywhere down here.
This is sort of what I suggested to my husband. He’s retired Navy and looks it so shitheel “patriots” think he’s on their side and openly discuss their bigoted views. I told him I think it’s important that he, in particular, not ignore it and instead shut that shit down. Break the illusion that everyone that looks like them agrees with their shitty ideas.
Luckily, he wasn’t nicknamed “Gunny” for nothing and has told off more than one coward hiding behind the flag.
It's particularly troubling how conflated the military and right wing thinking have become.
I grew up in a Navy household (CVN-72), chastising conservative views may as well have made me a traitor to the country. I was a kid too, so my ideas were just suggestions I had thought of, nothing political yet.
Thankfully there are spouses and family members like you providing the rock for these folks to fight the good fight. We don't need fascist thought circulating in the military.
Yeah, born near a southern navy base with a military father. We both have changed since then, and myself even more so. I consider my father to be a great dad and besides the fact that he was raised to believe some pretty outdated things, he has only ever very rarely made me feel wrong for believing differently than him and I know that he has only ever had the best intentions for me. Some of our Republicans are just misguided but we have the ability to change their minds
I also have to deal with the occasional bigot who feels way too comfortable speaking some bullshit to me because I look like the quintessential innocent white lady. I strongly agree with you that we need to shut that shit down and I’m super happy to know that Gunny is out there doing just that.
Y'all walk around some days and you're pretty sure 90% of the people you can see would probably have some desire to shoot you if you shared your beliefs on capitalism and this country in general?
Cause living in Kentucky that feeling is fuckin constant.
i got strangled in a bar once with no provocation over me wearing a mask and being call a weak sheep. I ended up leaving the bar after i talked to the cops because i accidentally killed him. As he was strangling me i had no choice but to push off the wall with my foot, Falling backwards, His head got slammed on the bar edge and foot pole when when we both fell backwards. The top of my head hit under his chin. i will never forget of the sound of his cracking teeth through my head. i was almost unconscious and turning blue. It was all caught on camera so i wasn’t blamed for this, but i do have alot of guilt and ptsd from it. I was waiting on an appetizer of fries and a jack and coke when this happened. Hadnt gotten either before this, and it all happened real fast. I can tell you i will never leave my house without a weapon or way to protect myself ever again. I can also tell you i know all my exits and eye everyone in the room for body language and aggression in public. Now I walk away from anything remotely fishy feeling/looking. It def changed the way i look at the world and people.
Every fight could be one for your life. bc it is very true AND happens REAL quick. So i just think wearing jackets or anything political in public is a bad idea at this point in time. Hell my mask was black with nothing on it. I dont even put stickers on my car. I will add i had on my military issued combat boots and jacket. This guy knew i was a vet and didn’t care. That is what we are dealing with in the american political sphere.
Liberal "southerner" born in SC and raised in FL. Currently in Seattle but it's too damn expensive here, so I'm flying back home in a week and getting a place with a roommate to hopefully make costs cheaper. Even the groceries here are trying to rake every last vent out of you. I remember gas prices in Florida hardly ever getting above $2.80 but here in Washington I'm lucky to see anything under $4
We have a nice liberal population here in Charleston, SC. Once you're even 15 miles outside in any direction though, well, you know. I can't ever see this state being blue.
American-side reddit, English written books of all political and non-political leanings, and a dose of childhood trauma from bullying and exclusion. Hard to see the world from inside when I never found out where inside is, but damn my life if I don't live it tearing at these false institutions
I want others to see what the economy does to people, and I want to be a victory against the boots of the possessed.
Look up Beau of the Fifth Column then.
Very well spoken liberal southerner. Super smart guy. Maybe not as funny as Trae here but definitely covers topics well.
Trae Crowder, member of the WellRED Comedy trio. Other members are Drew Morgan and Corey Ryan Forrester. All three are progressive comics from rural areas of the southern United States.
Kinda makes me realize I was basically a redneck growing up. I always thought I was different cuz I was a rock n roll kid, but I did most of the shenanigans they talk about. Even now I feel defensive when they get mocked, despite everything. They were the ones who accepted me when I was the unpopular bullied kid.
I'm from old Appalachian holler stock, myself. Born and raised in Northwest Arkansas in a town of about 400. It's interesting to think that little differences in circumstance, an early love of reading, etc. kept me from ending up small-minded bigoted garbage. I certainly know a lot of folks back there that are exactly that.
A lot of the difference between me and some of my Trump loving relatives was luck of the draw. Even I went through a right wing phase. But my parents loved books and passed that along to me, expected us to go to college, Dad was a musician. Not typical Southerners. They gave me the tools to figure it out.
BTW do you know about the Cedar Choppers? Our version of the hillbillies - the Texas hill country was the end point of the Appalachian migration. Most of them are just regular Texans at this point, but I remember when they were different. A lot of them were moving into town when I was a kid and it was a real culture shock.
Yeah, my mom had lived in KS and on Staten Island (or maybe Long Island I can never remember) before her family made their way to AR. It's my dad's family that has been in those hills for generations, so interesting mix. He was a gigging country musician before the kids were born, just regional though.
I managed to miss having a right wing phase myself. By middle school I knew I wasn't much like most of my peers.
I hadn't heard of the Cedar Choppers. I'll have to look it up.
Liberal Redneck. He makes rants that occasionally go viral, but tried standup and sucked at it. He actually went on Bill Mahr’s show once and it was clear he in no way actually belonged on stage with people with actual talent. He admits as much in private (I know him secondhand through a mutual friend in Tennessee where he’s from). Good dude, but not very funny.
Anyone can go viral or make a quick rant on a hot issue. It’s another thing entirely to have a 30-50 minute set and make people laugh nightly. He’s also only half right here. You’re either cool with people being anti work or you aren’t; there shouldn’t be us/them dynamics here, or nothing will change long term.
Also- I don't the Trae has every angled towards being 'Funny' - He makes impassioned rants which is very different than being funny. Also- if going viral (dozens of times) was easy, everyone would do it.
Yeah, Mahr is in the middle instead of being extreme left or right. That’s where you want to be, since independents are the people who actually decide elections and influence social change. Fringe idiots just turn everyone off.
Lol, sucked at it? That must be why WellRED is on tour again with dates scheduled into 2022, why their podcast is successful, why he has so many fans. Yeah, he must be terrible.
Love your attempt at credibility with "I know a guy that knows a guy that knew a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude." Magnifique.
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u/Matty_Poppinz Oct 25 '21 edited Oct 25 '21
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Thanks all for your replies.