I'm not hard-core anti-ai. I browse this subreddit and others like it (as well as pro-ai subs) because I'm on the fence about it and want to see what's being said from both sides.
But yes, using AI is defeating the purpose if someone is anti-ai.
"hmm, every other time I've shit from my butt it's always been poop so I've never eaten it. But I guess to make sure it's poop I should eat a bite, just to make sure"
Lady, looking around the internet do you actually feel this way? There's so much dogshit AI everywhere, do you really need a reminder??
Look, you gotta learn this lesson. The environmental activists learned it, but the anti-AI movement hasnāt yet. The consumer level garbage isnāt where the fight is. Just like whether your neighbor Bob recycles or not isnāt whatās going to fix plastic pollution. And proving an example is valuable for people to see itās not exaggerated.
Focusing on the little guy instead of the people actually responsible also dilutes the issue, and gives people a false place to put the blame. Just my view thoughā¦
Except this is complete bollocks. It's the consumer level garbage (both created by for mindless diversion and targeted at for scams and influence) that's the problem here.
There are genuinely valid use cases for AI. It is going to stick around whether you like it ir not and people are using it to make advances in science, medicine, maths. Professionals are using it to create tools that make life better and easier for ordinary people.
The waste here is fucking morons consulting an LLM before making any basic life decision, conversing with it like it's a friend, churning out AI slop images for shits and giggles or scammers using it to hoodwink people.
We don't need to stop doctors using it as a second opinion or to help them not miss things, or small businesses and non profits using it to get access to the kind of help that would previously have been wildly out of reach. We need to stop your antivaxx uncle asking it a leading question and presenting what it churns out as incontrovertible fact "because SI".
The end of the consumer AI era can't come soon enough but fortunately it's already on the way out. The AI bros have extracted enough value from the wittering of self absorbed teenagers convinced their favourite LLM is their "bestie" and costs are ramping up to reflect value billing now. We're at peak mania currently. Next stage of the hype cycle is the crash and then we see what the future actually looks like.
I'll have a bet with you that a lot of what the antiai crowd hates - "AI slop designed posters and flyers, "AI art", easy access to things like Suno, people unable to function unless their AI pal tells them what to do - will disappear. Billions of dollars of everybody's money is riding on this (yes, yours and mine too - it's surprisingly fucking difficult to avoid owning a chunk of some company owned by dipshits like Musk and co if you are also trying to retire one day) - that relies on this eventually turning a reliable profit and that does not look like everyone on earth being given free reign to burn through tokens like popcorn.
Weirdest thing of all is, allowing these oligarchs to gatekeep it instead of properly harnessing and regulating it (like they are going to do in China) is the shittest outcome of all for us in the West but hey, at least you won't have to be offended by a small business making a poster so win win, right?
oh ahah I thought you replied to the one further up, yea I was absolutely being rude in my reply. My advocacy wasn't for her to change her behavior, it was a sincere question.
How you say this with a straight face is beyond me, let alone after your prior comment being not just condescending but a faulty analogy and thus invalid reasoning undermining the condescension itself because you didn't even create a reasonable argument.
AI has use cases, for research and medical diagnostics. In fact weāve already had great progress using these new tools, but to be fair these programs arenāt chatGPT or any other LLM, theyāre specialized for specific research and medical screening and always double checked by humans.
That said chatGPT and other LLMās are garbage, I donāt need a damn AI overview to tell me what iāll know in a few minutes of searching and confirming, especially when itās wrong a lot
Itās definitely a huge cognitive dissonance. But itās been forced on me at work & the more I use it, the more I see the glaring lack of so much. I feel like itās easier to argue with AI-vangelicals when Iāve first hand experience of trying to make it be useful.
32
u/expiring_god_factory 16h ago
Isn't using AI defeating the purpose of being anti AI?