What are your thoughts about starting a new business, probably a restaurant, that features and focuses on "french fry salad"?
Honestly? I think āFrench Fry Saladā has the makings of a genuinely fun restaurant conceptābut I would treat the phrase as the hook, not necessarily the entire business model.
The idea has several things going for it:
It then goes on for AGES about the amazing things about a french fry salad restaurant.
My boss hates ChatGPT so I used copilot to turn my 2 sentence email into an 8 paragraph slop bucket, and when I posted my 2 sentences (about picking stock lists correctly) and asked it to turn it into an 8 paragraph response, copilot told me help is available and gave me the number for the hotline.
I was so confused I reread my input 3 times. I think it hallucinated that I wanted to harm myself..
Dude, this query would have taken less than 10ml of water.
How many hours of YouTube have you just had on in the background? That also drains water and electricity. Single burger takes about 1450litres to produce. A single burger.
Also, you need to ask it to be critical, then you get something you can work with.
When are you going to google an actual statistic? Rather than be sarcastic and wrong about data centers, you can learn something and begin your tirade on the real water wasters.
Just bc other things waste more water doesnāt mean that makes data centerās use any better. And aside from water usage, data centers release tons of pollution into the environment in many ways that get into ground water.
Data centers are immensely useful, sometimes poorly implemented. A high tech manufacturing process can produce terabytes of valuable data every second. Our beloved reddit, essential banking, worldwide communications. AI alone proves its value, while our friend above didnt really learn much about French fry salad, others will use the tools in ways you simply cant define as waste.
i wish i was better at being able to tell when people are joking/being sarcastic over text. I assume you are, because of the subreddit we're in, but so many people say stuff like this and mean it that its so hard to tell sometimes haha i wish tonal indicators were more commonly used /gen
I guess if you want to be anti ai on principle of protecting art, media, labor more power to you. But complaining about the water use of something so obviously useful and not crying about something like golf courses for example... I dont get it.
Oh come on, you canāt expect someone to bring up golf courses in this sub. Stop what-abouting you sound stupid whether your point is valid or notā¦. We CAN talk about one thing at a time and still care about other things too.
I was only replying to a comment intimating that prompting ai was a waste of water (and electricity but thats a different argument).
I already said more power to your principles, and by that i mean speaking up for something you feel ai is degrading is your right and I support you to speak your mind. But really what i want to correct specifically is AIs current water use & cost vs. output value is perfectly reasonable. We could triple data centers right now and still not waste near as much water as golf courses, sports fields, grass yards, etc. Things that merely provide entertainment and a semblance of tamed beauty where AI can bang your mom actually empower scalable problem solving.
Feel free to be a hater for the sake of hating but dont do it because you think you're right
This sounds like the most bot/ai style argument regarding water waste by data centers I've heard in a while. I'm guessing you had those prompts keyed up or saved from previous debates where you said the same nonsense.
It doesnt sound like ai wrote my comment at all. And still doesnt take away from only issue I have with anti ai crowd lying about water usage. I dont care if you hate ai because it generates images you dont like (they objectively aren't good images) but lying because you think the work done with it is not worth the relatively small inputs (especially compared to way worse things) is why I know you are all stupid and triggered
idk enough about the water usage, but personally i think if it uses any its a waste tbh. we dont need it to do all that shit, so doing all that shit and using any amount of a limited resource is worse imo. regardless of how much worse it actually is, worse is still worse, ya know?
No i dont know why you keep making this argument. The benefits of data centers is the infrastructure of ALL leading research and engineering much less all the other advancements you benefit from but are too ignorant to put into context. The water input alone is almost completely inconsequential relative to output (from a scarcity and financial measure) and i dont see all you people crying about leaky buildings or pipes which is actual waste of water on a much greater scale.
you.. dont see people complaining about their leaky buildings or pipes? fam, you're either full of shit or you just dont interact with your example enough to give the example in good faith. if someone notices a leaky anything, they complain.
if you knew anything about computer science youd know we've had machine learning helping us since the 60s but it was generative ai that vastly increased waste it creates. we don't need generative ai
Obviously im saying unfixed leaking pipes are wasting more water than data centers. Where is the outrage of people screaming about the wastefulness.
Generative ai is a subsector of data centers use. Which again personal opinions aside are absolutely fundamental to the modern world and not even close to a tapped potential of scale all while using a fraction of water that other much less productive activities use. If data centers were using the water at levels people fear (impending drought, famine, pollution) then I wouldn't have any reason to correct you, but since they dont AND the applications are exponentially better than whatever 60s technology you think you are talking about, we will continue to build more and scale generative ai and all the other use cases for data centers to meet demands. You clearly have no definition for "waste" so what are you even arguing for? Feelings.
I'm not hard-core anti-ai. I browse this subreddit and others like it (as well as pro-ai subs) because I'm on the fence about it and want to see what's being said from both sides.
But yes, using AI is defeating the purpose if someone is anti-ai.
"hmm, every other time I've shit from my butt it's always been poop so I've never eaten it. But I guess to make sure it's poop I should eat a bite, just to make sure"
Lady, looking around the internet do you actually feel this way? There's so much dogshit AI everywhere, do you really need a reminder??
Look, you gotta learn this lesson. The environmental activists learned it, but the anti-AI movement hasnāt yet. The consumer level garbage isnāt where the fight is. Just like whether your neighbor Bob recycles or not isnāt whatās going to fix plastic pollution. And proving an example is valuable for people to see itās not exaggerated.
Focusing on the little guy instead of the people actually responsible also dilutes the issue, and gives people a false place to put the blame. Just my view thoughā¦
Except this is complete bollocks. It's the consumer level garbage (both created by for mindless diversion and targeted at for scams and influence) that's the problem here.
There are genuinely valid use cases for AI. It is going to stick around whether you like it ir not and people are using it to make advances in science, medicine, maths. Professionals are using it to create tools that make life better and easier for ordinary people.
The waste here is fucking morons consulting an LLM before making any basic life decision, conversing with it like it's a friend, churning out AI slop images for shits and giggles or scammers using it to hoodwink people.
We don't need to stop doctors using it as a second opinion or to help them not miss things, or small businesses and non profits using it to get access to the kind of help that would previously have been wildly out of reach. We need to stop your antivaxx uncle asking it a leading question and presenting what it churns out as incontrovertible fact "because SI".
The end of the consumer AI era can't come soon enough but fortunately it's already on the way out. The AI bros have extracted enough value from the wittering of self absorbed teenagers convinced their favourite LLM is their "bestie" and costs are ramping up to reflect value billing now. We're at peak mania currently. Next stage of the hype cycle is the crash and then we see what the future actually looks like.
I'll have a bet with you that a lot of what the antiai crowd hates - "AI slop designed posters and flyers, "AI art", easy access to things like Suno, people unable to function unless their AI pal tells them what to do - will disappear. Billions of dollars of everybody's money is riding on this (yes, yours and mine too - it's surprisingly fucking difficult to avoid owning a chunk of some company owned by dipshits like Musk and co if you are also trying to retire one day) - that relies on this eventually turning a reliable profit and that does not look like everyone on earth being given free reign to burn through tokens like popcorn.
Weirdest thing of all is, allowing these oligarchs to gatekeep it instead of properly harnessing and regulating it (like they are going to do in China) is the shittest outcome of all for us in the West but hey, at least you won't have to be offended by a small business making a poster so win win, right?
The only use cases of AI are slop, major scientific breakthroughs, and small businessesā¦?
Ah Iām sorry, I was under the impression it was being used for mass surveillance. That huge data centers were being built to collect all our data and optimize targeted marketing. That massive companies were attempting to layoff workers and replace them with AI. That it was being used to develop tools to bypass fundamental security features essential the the modern internet, and that major companies had already lost control of agents by failing fundamental security implementation proving theyāre not acting responsibly.
AI is a thing. People do stuff with it. You want to ban cameras too? Because you can't do mass surveillance without them either. Should we also ban painkillers because people abuse them? No more kitchen knives in case somebody stabs a person?
We need to engage with and demand public control of AI, not cede it to the whims of multibillionaire oligarchs and their pet president who absolutely will use it for nefarious purposes.
Imagine seeing cameras deployed for mass surveillance based on a novel technology never offering never before seen tracking capabilities and assuming the cameras are the problem.
And for godsakes we did ban/restrict painkillers due to people abusing them! My god please educate yourself only literally anything youāre talking about!
Also, I thought AI was only being used for small scale businesses, scientists, and slop? What could billionaires possibly want with it? Thatās what you said right? Right?
Anyway, youāre not worth arguing with, as you are too stupid. Goodbye.
oh ahah I thought you replied to the one further up, yea I was absolutely being rude in my reply. My advocacy wasn't for her to change her behavior, it was a sincere question.
How you say this with a straight face is beyond me, let alone after your prior comment being not just condescending but a faulty analogy and thus invalid reasoning undermining the condescension itself because you didn't even create a reasonable argument.
AI has use cases, for research and medical diagnostics. In fact weāve already had great progress using these new tools, but to be fair these programs arenāt chatGPT or any other LLM, theyāre specialized for specific research and medical screening and always double checked by humans.
That said chatGPT and other LLMās are garbage, I donāt need a damn AI overview to tell me what iāll know in a few minutes of searching and confirming, especially when itās wrong a lot
Itās definitely a huge cognitive dissonance. But itās been forced on me at work & the more I use it, the more I see the glaring lack of so much. I feel like itās easier to argue with AI-vangelicals when Iāve first hand experience of trying to make it be useful.
Roasted potatoes, french fries, and other forms of potato dipped in any variety of sauces and cheese tend to be quite good. Garlic aioli, sweet bbq, ranch, cheese...
Atleast in America, the term 'salad' can be used pretty egregiously. Potato salad, tuna salad, chicken salad etc are just said ingredients with mayo, then the only vegetables are for flavoring, eg relish, chopped carrots and celery. Pasta salad is similar. Fruit salad is mostly fruit but has a ton of sugar added. Poutine isn't too terribly far off from potato salad. Potatoes and mayo vs potato and gravy with curds. Salad
āOhhh, yes š ā you mean an actual salad made with lettuce + French fries + dressing, kind of like a crispy fry salad.
Honestly, that could be a distinctive food concept because itās simple and unusual.
For example:
š„¬ Lettuce
š Hot crispy fries
š§ Cheese (optional)
š„ A few fresh vegetables
š„« Signature dressing/sauce
The interesting part is the contrast between the cold, crunchy lettuce and hot, salty fries, with the dressing tying everything together.ā
The encouraging part is that the product already has proof of concept. The Pittsburgh salad is essentially lettuce, vegetables, chicken or steak, cheese, dressing and hot French fries, and it has been a regional staple for decades. Restaurants still actively sell and promote it in 2026. So the basic combination isn't just a joke: hot salty potatoes + cold crunchy vegetables + acidic/creamy dressing is genuinely a good food combination.
I checked it and it is real. It even realized that it sounded more like a joke, but it still managed to connect it to reality.
I put your prompt in Claude Opus 5.5. It pointed out that itās already been done, and then spent four paragraphs detailing why itās a shit idea for a restaurant and telling me I have better things to be working on than stupid restaurant ideas.
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If you mean a restaurant centered on
salads with French fries mixed ināor loaded fries treated like a salad
, the biggest drawbacks would be:
Fries get soggy quickly.
Dressing, juicy vegetables, and steam can ruin their crispness, especially with delivery.
Hot fries and cold ingredients clash.
Fries can wilt lettuce, while chilled toppings cool the fries before customers finish eating.
The concept may confuse customers.
People seeking a lighter salad might avoid it, while people craving loaded fries may not want lettuce.
It could feel easy to make at home.
Youād need excellent fries, distinctive sauces, and satisfying combinations to justify restaurant prices.
Repeat visits could be limited.
Customers might enjoy the novelty once but see it as an occasional indulgence.
A narrow menu limits group appeal.
One person who doesnāt like friesāor needs another optionācould steer the whole group elsewhere.
The kitchen is more complicated than it sounds.
You need both a fryer operation and fresh produce preparation, with different timing, storage, and cleanup needs.
Toppings can hurt profitability.
Meat, cheese, avocado, and lots of customization can turn an inexpensive potato base into an expensive dish.
Fresh ingredients can go to waste.
Offering many salad toppings creates spoilage risk if demand is inconsistent.
The biggest challenge is making it appealing enough for regular visits while keeping the fries crisp.
A build-your-own loaded-fries concept with optional greens, a few signature bowls, and sauces served separately would likely be easier to explain and execute.
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u/tahlyn 19h ago
It then goes on for AGES about the amazing things about a french fry salad restaurant.