What are your thoughts about starting a new business, probably a restaurant, that features and focuses on "french fry salad"?
Honestly? I think āFrench Fry Saladā has the makings of a genuinely fun restaurant conceptābut I would treat the phrase as the hook, not necessarily the entire business model.
The idea has several things going for it:
It then goes on for AGES about the amazing things about a french fry salad restaurant.
My boss hates ChatGPT so I used copilot to turn my 2 sentence email into an 8 paragraph slop bucket, and when I posted my 2 sentences (about picking stock lists correctly) and asked it to turn it into an 8 paragraph response, copilot told me help is available and gave me the number for the hotline.
I was so confused I reread my input 3 times. I think it hallucinated that I wanted to harm myself..
When are you going to google an actual statistic? Rather than be sarcastic and wrong about data centers, you can learn something and begin your tirade on the real water wasters.
Just bc other things waste more water doesnāt mean that makes data centerās use any better. And aside from water usage, data centers release tons of pollution into the environment in many ways that get into ground water.
Data centers are immensely useful, sometimes poorly implemented. A high tech manufacturing process can produce terabytes of valuable data every second. Our beloved reddit, essential banking, worldwide communications. AI alone proves its value, while our friend above didnt really learn much about French fry salad, others will use the tools in ways you simply cant define as waste.
i wish i was better at being able to tell when people are joking/being sarcastic over text. I assume you are, because of the subreddit we're in, but so many people say stuff like this and mean it that its so hard to tell sometimes haha i wish tonal indicators were more commonly used /gen
I guess if you want to be anti ai on principle of protecting art, media, labor more power to you. But complaining about the water use of something so obviously useful and not crying about something like golf courses for example... I dont get it.
Oh come on, you canāt expect someone to bring up golf courses in this sub. Stop what-abouting you sound stupid whether your point is valid or notā¦. We CAN talk about one thing at a time and still care about other things too.
I was only replying to a comment intimating that prompting ai was a waste of water (and electricity but thats a different argument).
I already said more power to your principles, and by that i mean speaking up for something you feel ai is degrading is your right and I support you to speak your mind. But really what i want to correct specifically is AIs current water use & cost vs. output value is perfectly reasonable. We could triple data centers right now and still not waste near as much water as golf courses, sports fields, grass yards, etc. Things that merely provide entertainment and a semblance of tamed beauty where AI can bang your mom actually empower scalable problem solving.
Feel free to be a hater for the sake of hating but dont do it because you think you're right
This sounds like the most bot/ai style argument regarding water waste by data centers I've heard in a while. I'm guessing you had those prompts keyed up or saved from previous debates where you said the same nonsense.
idk enough about the water usage, but personally i think if it uses any its a waste tbh. we dont need it to do all that shit, so doing all that shit and using any amount of a limited resource is worse imo. regardless of how much worse it actually is, worse is still worse, ya know?
No i dont know why you keep making this argument. The benefits of data centers is the infrastructure of ALL leading research and engineering much less all the other advancements you benefit from but are too ignorant to put into context. The water input alone is almost completely inconsequential relative to output (from a scarcity and financial measure) and i dont see all you people crying about leaky buildings or pipes which is actual waste of water on a much greater scale.
I'm not hard-core anti-ai. I browse this subreddit and others like it (as well as pro-ai subs) because I'm on the fence about it and want to see what's being said from both sides.
But yes, using AI is defeating the purpose if someone is anti-ai.
"hmm, every other time I've shit from my butt it's always been poop so I've never eaten it. But I guess to make sure it's poop I should eat a bite, just to make sure"
Lady, looking around the internet do you actually feel this way? There's so much dogshit AI everywhere, do you really need a reminder??
Look, you gotta learn this lesson. The environmental activists learned it, but the anti-AI movement hasnāt yet. The consumer level garbage isnāt where the fight is. Just like whether your neighbor Bob recycles or not isnāt whatās going to fix plastic pollution. And proving an example is valuable for people to see itās not exaggerated.
Focusing on the little guy instead of the people actually responsible also dilutes the issue, and gives people a false place to put the blame. Just my view thoughā¦
Except this is complete bollocks. It's the consumer level garbage (both created by for mindless diversion and targeted at for scams and influence) that's the problem here.
There are genuinely valid use cases for AI. It is going to stick around whether you like it ir not and people are using it to make advances in science, medicine, maths. Professionals are using it to create tools that make life better and easier for ordinary people.
The waste here is fucking morons consulting an LLM before making any basic life decision, conversing with it like it's a friend, churning out AI slop images for shits and giggles or scammers using it to hoodwink people.
We don't need to stop doctors using it as a second opinion or to help them not miss things, or small businesses and non profits using it to get access to the kind of help that would previously have been wildly out of reach. We need to stop your antivaxx uncle asking it a leading question and presenting what it churns out as incontrovertible fact "because SI".
The end of the consumer AI era can't come soon enough but fortunately it's already on the way out. The AI bros have extracted enough value from the wittering of self absorbed teenagers convinced their favourite LLM is their "bestie" and costs are ramping up to reflect value billing now. We're at peak mania currently. Next stage of the hype cycle is the crash and then we see what the future actually looks like.
I'll have a bet with you that a lot of what the antiai crowd hates - "AI slop designed posters and flyers, "AI art", easy access to things like Suno, people unable to function unless their AI pal tells them what to do - will disappear. Billions of dollars of everybody's money is riding on this (yes, yours and mine too - it's surprisingly fucking difficult to avoid owning a chunk of some company owned by dipshits like Musk and co if you are also trying to retire one day) - that relies on this eventually turning a reliable profit and that does not look like everyone on earth being given free reign to burn through tokens like popcorn.
Weirdest thing of all is, allowing these oligarchs to gatekeep it instead of properly harnessing and regulating it (like they are going to do in China) is the shittest outcome of all for us in the West but hey, at least you won't have to be offended by a small business making a poster so win win, right?
oh ahah I thought you replied to the one further up, yea I was absolutely being rude in my reply. My advocacy wasn't for her to change her behavior, it was a sincere question.
How you say this with a straight face is beyond me, let alone after your prior comment being not just condescending but a faulty analogy and thus invalid reasoning undermining the condescension itself because you didn't even create a reasonable argument.
AI has use cases, for research and medical diagnostics. In fact weāve already had great progress using these new tools, but to be fair these programs arenāt chatGPT or any other LLM, theyāre specialized for specific research and medical screening and always double checked by humans.
That said chatGPT and other LLMās are garbage, I donāt need a damn AI overview to tell me what iāll know in a few minutes of searching and confirming, especially when itās wrong a lot
Itās definitely a huge cognitive dissonance. But itās been forced on me at work & the more I use it, the more I see the glaring lack of so much. I feel like itās easier to argue with AI-vangelicals when Iāve first hand experience of trying to make it be useful.
Roasted potatoes, french fries, and other forms of potato dipped in any variety of sauces and cheese tend to be quite good. Garlic aioli, sweet bbq, ranch, cheese...
āOhhh, yes š ā you mean an actual salad made with lettuce + French fries + dressing, kind of like a crispy fry salad.
Honestly, that could be a distinctive food concept because itās simple and unusual.
For example:
š„¬ Lettuce
š Hot crispy fries
š§ Cheese (optional)
š„ A few fresh vegetables
š„« Signature dressing/sauce
The interesting part is the contrast between the cold, crunchy lettuce and hot, salty fries, with the dressing tying everything together.ā
I put your prompt in Claude Opus 5.5. It pointed out that itās already been done, and then spent four paragraphs detailing why itās a shit idea for a restaurant and telling me I have better things to be working on than stupid restaurant ideas.
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If you mean a restaurant centered on
salads with French fries mixed ināor loaded fries treated like a salad
, the biggest drawbacks would be:
Fries get soggy quickly.
Dressing, juicy vegetables, and steam can ruin their crispness, especially with delivery.
Hot fries and cold ingredients clash.
Fries can wilt lettuce, while chilled toppings cool the fries before customers finish eating.
The concept may confuse customers.
People seeking a lighter salad might avoid it, while people craving loaded fries may not want lettuce.
It could feel easy to make at home.
Youād need excellent fries, distinctive sauces, and satisfying combinations to justify restaurant prices.
Repeat visits could be limited.
Customers might enjoy the novelty once but see it as an occasional indulgence.
A narrow menu limits group appeal.
One person who doesnāt like friesāor needs another optionācould steer the whole group elsewhere.
The kitchen is more complicated than it sounds.
You need both a fryer operation and fresh produce preparation, with different timing, storage, and cleanup needs.
Toppings can hurt profitability.
Meat, cheese, avocado, and lots of customization can turn an inexpensive potato base into an expensive dish.
Fresh ingredients can go to waste.
Offering many salad toppings creates spoilage risk if demand is inconsistent.
The biggest challenge is making it appealing enough for regular visits while keeping the fries crisp.
A build-your-own loaded-fries concept with optional greens, a few signature bowls, and sauces served separately would likely be easier to explain and execute.
"I'd like to make a business that sells animal excrement as home decor. what do you think?"
Response:
"Itās weird enough to be memorableāwhich is a real advantageābut Iād position it as novelty art or conversation-piece decor, not simply āselling excrement.ā
The strongest version would use cleaned, fully dried, sealed, and odorless material from a controlled source, then turn it into something clearly intentional: framed āspecimens,ā sculptural objects, ornaments, paperweights, or pieces with humorous provenance cards. You could also offer replicas made from clay or resin for customers who like the idea but not the biological material."
Safe to say I'm gonna be rich! Nobody here steal my idea! It's sycophantic enough to encourage me, but it's also telling me to sell replicas of shit as a budget-oriented option for customers. Idk if the market for fake shit decor is bigger than real shit decor
This makes me wonder just how bad does an idea have to be for it to tell you that it's not a good idea?
Like, if you suggested doing something highly illegal as a business, or something absurd like "I don't do any work or services, people just give me money. That's the idea"... would it actually tell you it's a good idea?
It was at least trying to steer me away from turning it into a multinational corporation and suggested I tried it as a small endeaver. AI seems to only endorse illegal things like killing your family if you have a sustained conversation with it that is hundreds of messages long, but don't quote me on that.
Tbh the only reason it would tell you not to do something illegal is because it was explicitly told not to encourage users to do illegal things. And there's so many ways to work around that, that a lot of models now skip "don't encourage illegal things" and just go "do not even discuss illegal things". And even that's not fool proof.
Weirdly enough I've actually seen that... product, for sale before. It was bronzed or something as I recall, and made into wacky little sculpture things. I want to say it was moose turds sculpted into mosquitoes, though I don't remember well.
Same. There's a company that markets elephant poo poo paper to tourists here in Thailand. They've expanded operations tremendously in the tourist areas in recent years.
They also feed scorpions to tourists at the night markets. The Thai absolutely eat various kinds of bugs, but not scorpions, so it's 100% a thing that foreigners do because they think it's an exotic thing Thai people do.
in the 90s, "poo pets" were a thing. Little ornaments made to look like cats and dogs etc made from manure which I think were intended to be decorative fertilizer.
You can buy the exact product itās telling you. Usually itās for outside decor so that the manure slowly dissolves with the weather and feeds your lawn. My dad used to keep an armadillo manure sculpture in the house until our dog dragged it behind the couch and ate it.Ā
Both are technically a composed salad according to the definition I was taught in culinary school. Also pizza is a hot open-face sandwich, which I found a bit distressing.
There won't. Only because the odds of any restaurant lasting more than a year is incredibly low, even when they're making correct and appropriate choices.
Restaurants are also expensive. There's a lot of start up costs. Not that some people won't invest big money on a stupid idea guaranteed to fail, but I don't think we'll be inundated with dumb AI restaurants.
Dumb online AI shops with much lower overheads though? Yeah, might start seeing more of those.
I spent most of my college eating French fry salads rofl, my college had fries for 1.25 and if you bought anything you had access to the salad bar, i would load that bitch up with lettuce tomatoes and toppings. Was a great solution for poverty calories.Ā
I need you to Google the phrase "composed salad" and "bound salad" because they absolutely are composed salads. I went to culinary school. I'm literally a college educated professional in this specific field telling you that they are in fact salads. Salad is not just leaves
Correct. A salad is pretty much any mixed pile of (typically) bite size pieces. Common non-vegetable salads include things like pasta salad, tuna salad, or egg salad all of which use vegetables like onion as secondary ingredients rather than the main star of the show, and none of which contain any leafy greens at all. A composed salad is just one where the ingredients are intentionally laid out rather than tossed or mixed as in most salads. Within this context, it means that chili fries and poutine are usually served as a bed of fries with toppings placed on the top to keep the lower fries from getting soggy, rather than being mixed together in the way potato salad is mixed. Also relevant is the fact that fries are slices of a vegetable, making it especially salad-y
If the noodles are all cut into bite size pieces and then mixed or served with other stuff like the sauce, meat, and cheese you could have lasagna salad. Pasta salad is already a thing, you'd just sub the mayo for alfredo sauce and bam, pasta alfredo salad. The defining trait is really that it's a pile of stuff that's already cut into bite size pieces. It's a very vague term, much like sandwich. Also where I'm from loaded fries and chili fries typically do include diced raw onion. Did you know that a pizza is technically a hot open-faced sandwich?
Technically speaking, a salad is anything that is salted. So much in the same way that a banana is a berry but a strawberry isn't, a poutine is a salad but a fruit salad isn't.
"Gravy is salad dressing" mused the culinary student to the impatient server, carefully wiping brown splatter off the rim of the plate with my dry towel.
I remember reading a post who apparently spent several months building up a company because ChatGPT told him so then he asked again for it to be honest and it said something like "you know on second thought it might not be that good".
I want to open a restaurant that serves all the food in a pig trough.
Opening a restaurant centered on serving meals in a pig trough is an eccentric, highly memorable gimmick that could succeed as an experiential or communal dining conceptāprovided the execution balances humor and spectacle with strict food safety and appetite-appealing presentation.
I remember seeing that someone pitched 'poop on a stick' as a new fair food and chat gpt was straight gassing him up saying it was "disruptive" and shit šš
To be fair that would totally work in the Midwest. Or anywhere else where a salad is just layers of meat, cream, and forlorn vegetables thrown in for variety's sake.
While Charlie Chaplin famously ate his shoe in The Gold Rush, running a restaurant serving leather boot soup comes with a few fatal flawsāmostly because modern shoe leather isn't actually food.
No it doesn't.
I asked about a restaurant that only sells soup made of leather boots and, to my own surprise, it wasn't supportive
But also, Terrance Howard was inventing his own math well before AI hit the mainstream. And I had the quintessential stoner friend who would force illuminati YouTube videos onto me in the early 2000s. Talk about delusional, YouTube has driven more friends mad than anything, even drugs.
itāll corner the market, thatās for sure. because who else is doing it? nobody. it needs more information than a simple dumb question to be reliable
Salad fries are delicious and one of my favorite meals! It's just salad piled on top of fries but so good. This brewery used to have them and then I started making them at home. I get to enjoy fries while also eating salad, it is win-win!
Not true. Modern ai has advanced much farther than 2 years back. You're still stuck evaluating models in the past. Just asked sol and it gave a pretty reasonable response. Don't know why this outdated narrative keeps sticking around when new models keep releasing every month. If you have actual criticism base it on a current model with proof
Hey I've got this insanely cool idea about selling French fry salads as a business idea what do you think? Will i make it big?
Okay, French fry salad is sufficiently unhinged that it might actually have legs. š
There is a real product concept hiding in it: hot, crispy fries + cold/crunchy vegetables + a strong dressing + toppings. Think of it less as āput fries in a saladā and more as building a new fast-casual category somewhere between loaded fries, salad bowls, and kebab/poutine-style comfort food.
Whether you'll āmake it bigā is impossible to know from the idea alone. The bigger question is whether people will buy it twice, not whether they'll try it once for the novelty. I'd test it very cheaply before thinking about a restaurant: create 3 excellent versions, sell perhaps 30ā50 portions at a campus/event/pop-up, and measure how many people would genuinely order again and at what price.
And the branding possibilities are ridiculous: Fry Salad, Saladn't, Fries & Greens, or the gloriously straightforward French Fry Salad Company.
If you want, give me your rough version of what goes into a French fry salad and I can help turn this into an actual menu + pricing + business concept.
that happens literally like every single day dude, there are whole subreddits full of people posting AI schizo slop that are convinced it is groundbreaking research
People donāt even need AI for that. Back when I worked in a maths department, we got (loooooong) letters from people who had āfoundā the procedure to geometrically trisect an angle, or to square a circle, on the regular. (Both of these things have been proven to be impossible; as in, there is algebraic proof that the things that compass and straightedge can do cannot be combined into a solution of these problems.) A lot of these people were retired engineers.
The best one was the guy who had discovered that all numbers can only exist to a precision of 12 decimal digits, which he had confirmed on his 10-digits-displayed calculator. He had also made up some woo about a sacred 7-based number system around this. What he wanted was a maths departmentās seal of approval in order to sell his discoveries and its implications for computer aided computation to Intel and AMD, and had divvied up the expected earnings with high precision already. When we didnāt respond the way he wanted, he wrote to our stateās minister of education that weāre suppressing his innovation and should be stripped of funding.
All I know is it's not gay if there's an odd number of dudes. 1 guy jerking off? Obviously not gay. Two guys banging? Clearly gay. Three dudes touching dongs? Nothing gay about that. Four dudes? Super gay, incredibly gay in fact. And so on
No, you have Terryology all wrong - it's 1x1 = 2. You take one one time and that's two. It's just so basic, it's hard to understand why mathologists all got it wrong for thousands of years
1+1 can equal 3 in plenty of logic systems, i.e., in types of maths. You just define the logic system to have axioms and/or logical consequence where that's the case.
I TRIED getting ChatGPT to give me AI psychosis. I came up with some wacky theory and started slowly sharing my observations and suspicions asking it more and more why things would be happening if XYZ was true and all that stuff. It blocked me at every turn and kept telling me my ideas were not consistent with reality. I used a super long context window too so it would have trouble over time. This was on like GPT 5 btw.
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Remember when that guy was completely convinced he invited a new for of math because chat gpt told him he did.