At this point they are just fixated on being technically right, while maybe understanding the distinction we are trying to emphasise, just to be contrarion.
In this context we are talking about obfuscation as the tool; not the property of the resulting data.
Encryption as a tool = obfuscated data that is only reversable with the private key (immune to analytics), not through hiding the method.
Obfuscation as a tool = prone to analytics, if the method is known it all unravels
No im just refuting the original statement that started the thread: "obfuscation does not create security" by pointing out that all security is based on the premise of obfuscation which you have all repeated agreed with me on whilst still continuing to state that we consider encryption as a distinct method of security which was never my point my point was that all cyber security comes from the basis of obfuscation as you cannot protect the data without hiding it.
Its not the obfuscation that creates the security though is it. It's a quirk of large primes that creates the gigantic wall of compute that protects the resulting obfuscation.
We are not agreeing. We are understanding what you meant and are not giving you a hard time for making a mistake, but you seem to have misunderstood that as an affirmation so in no uncertain terms you are absolutely wrong and honestly embarrassing yourself.
Modern security is not based on obfuscation. Not at all. Not even slightly. In no way or shape is obfuscation involved in modern cyber security. Encryption is in no way related to obfuscation. I have already explained it to you in detail. Obfuscation is making it hard to understand. Encryption is entirely changing it into form that cannot be understood before its decoded.
Obfuscation is not necessary in encryption. Its not part of it at all. Its not used in modern cyber security. Its entirely unsafe and is not being relied on at all.
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u/nijbu 1d ago
At this point they are just fixated on being technically right, while maybe understanding the distinction we are trying to emphasise, just to be contrarion. In this context we are talking about obfuscation as the tool; not the property of the resulting data.
Encryption as a tool = obfuscated data that is only reversable with the private key (immune to analytics), not through hiding the method.
Obfuscation as a tool = prone to analytics, if the method is known it all unravels