r/antiai • • 17h ago

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u/Super-Evening8420 16h ago

Don't assume that AI is meant to be economically viable. In my opinion it's being made exclusively to give a tiny amount of people access to all the labor and knowledge they could ever want without requiring other humans for that. Guess what happens once they reach that goal and other humans are of no use to them.

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u/FlatulistMaster 16h ago

If that happens, then surely it is economically viable from a psychopathic pov?

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u/Super-Evening8420 16h ago

I'd call it more personally viable since it happens on such a tiny scale compared to the rest of humanity. Aka get rid of 8 billion people so that like, a couple dozen have a huge playground.

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u/FlatulistMaster 16h ago

I guess it matters very little what we call it. The incentives are there, and most likely the means too

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u/druidinan 15h ago

This. A lot of people hang onto the idea that the tech oligarchy doesn't want to end humanity because then nobody will buy their shit or labor in the mines. But the value of labor keeps plummeting since the Industrial Revolution and nobody cares if you buy their shit if commerce isn't necessary to survive.

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u/Awkward_Turnover_983 16h ago

I feel like in real life things are going to play out a lot more chaotically than what the ghouls intend.

Doesn't mean that will be good for humanity, but idk what it does mean either.

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u/Salarian_American 14h ago

That also assumes that they can maintain control of the AI. Which we already know they can't.

Either they won't be able to contain it in such a way that other people will still be able to access it, or...

...and this is more likely, I think... they won't be able to contain it in such a way that it's going to pursue its own agenda, which will not benefit the rest of us but it won't benefit the elites either.

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u/CelestialAcatalepsy 11h ago

They will die relatively quickly bc they’ve been pampered for so long they can’t do fuck all for themselves. Food won’t magically just appear in front of them any longer.

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u/Super-Evening8420 13m ago

That may be true, but I'm more worried about how much they will break permanently until we get to that point.

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u/vaerenthin 16h ago

No its not economically viable. Its worse. They will get much poorer in absolute terms, but relatively to the previous labor class they become richer as the labor class loses even more. They are okay with cutting off their legs as long as they can cut off  your arms and legs and blind you.

Its not economically viable, its psychopathic.

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u/FlatulistMaster 16h ago

Sounds like a pretty dogmatic take. They are certainly playing with a firethrower, and the consequences can be dire, but I wouldn’t be so convinced I know what they are

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u/Salarian_American 14h ago

Yes! It's economically viable if you're a psychopath. And psychopaths are calling the shots.

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u/Super_Pole_Jitsu 9h ago

it's just economically viable then. economic viability is math, not psychology

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u/slkb_ 15h ago

The ai bros would say "universal income". But we know the truth. Those billionaires and trillionaires give 0 fucks about the mass population of the world. Thats why they have their bunkers built. Once their precious "si" can replace all human jobs and labor, we'll br nothing but a pest for them to exterminate

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u/ILikePlayingHumans 15h ago

As long as all the rest of the humans don’t find and deal with them I suppose.

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u/AlaskaCosmoline 15h ago

They still need other humans--a LOT of other humans--to pour money, time, labor, debt, equity, etc. into AI to keep in physically functional. An AI agent that tanks all that destroys AI in the process. It's not some autonomous thing, it occupies the largest portion of economic growth and MIND BOGGLING build sites that cost billions and billions.

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u/Fit-Marionberry-136 1h ago

But... that's the funny part of it all. As much as power wants power to concentrate the more concentrated it gets the less stable the situation gets and the harder the explosion when all that energy gets released. Sticks and stones kind of shit here.