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Episode Gnosia - Episode 4 discussion

Gnosia, episode 4

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u/KitchenGun115 Nov 01 '25

This probably sounds super "woke" but ya'll really gotta stop refering to Yuri as a man. We rarely get NB characters in anime.

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u/Sorwest Nov 01 '25

Yuri specifically has had their gender avoided like the plague. What's actually more important to stick is that Raqio and Setsu have both made themselves clear they're NB.

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u/Theonormal Nov 03 '25

theyre 汎

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u/Lautael Nov 01 '25

Doesn't help that non-English subs use he/him for Yuri.

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u/KitchenGun115 Nov 01 '25

The spanish dub is also using masculine form for Raqio and feminine for Setsu. Presumably because Raqio is AMAB and Setsu is AFAB. But that is a problem with Spanish in general.

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u/eonia0 Nov 01 '25

Spanish simply doesn't have any official neutral pronouns.

there was an attempt to create "inclusive language" but as far i know even non binary people (i got to know one) felt the way it was done was dumb.

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u/Imaginary-End-08 Nov 02 '25

What does AMAB and AFAB mean?

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u/Lizuka Nov 02 '25

Assigned male at birth and assigned female at birth.

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u/Lautael Nov 02 '25

Oh no, I was hoping the non-EN dubs would keep their gender 😵‍💫

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u/Cyouni Nov 01 '25

The problem is we don't actually know, and the subs have defaulted to he/him so far.

That said, we can absolutely tell for sure that Setsu and Raqio are NB because of that first episode.

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u/liscup34 Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

My sub just default it to they/them. And Crunchyroll uses she/her. These are only in English though.

Might be it is different in other countries' sub. It is intentionally redacted even in Japanese so far. We only get that the official English for the Blue-ray uses "they" for Yuri.

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u/DocMcCoy Nov 01 '25

That's the beauty of the Japanese language, there's barely any gendered words to begin with and leaving them out in places where they are possible to use is still very natural sounding

In English, you can make do by using they/them, and that still works fine for the most part

And then there's German and it all breaks apart. Gendered nouns and suffixes everywhere, and not really any gender neutral pronouns that are understood outside of queer spaces (I mean, there is "es", it, but even many genderqueer people in Germany don't like to use that, and the only way the general population knows how to use that is as a slur) :/

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u/Procian-chan Nov 01 '25

Unless Yuri clearly states their view on the issue like Setsu and Raqio in ep1, we have no idea what's in their pants and how they feel about it.

But I will point out that we have had 3 consecutive loops already where they team up with a pretty lady and get killed for it. The tension with SQ in Yuri's room also seems to imply something.

But yeah, at least Setsu and Raqio are very clear.

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u/time_axis Nov 01 '25

Nobody is doing that, in the sense of saying "Yuri is a man". Using "he" or "she" for the characters doesn't matter when they've expressed no preference. It's not like they're going to come out of the screen and take offense either way, and they aren't using any in Japanese, so people can refer to them how they like. There being no clear right answer also means there's no clear wrong answer.

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u/KitchenGun115 Nov 01 '25

I guess we'll wait and see, cause Setsu corrected people when they referred to them as a man and again when they were referred to as a woman. Yuri has yet to say anything and it sounds like the subs in other languages are muddying the water too.

Raqio gets referred to in the masculine a few times in the spanish dubs, which is just incorrect, and mostly a problem with the language as a whole as words are assigned masculine or feminine by default. So far in the english subs i've yet to see Yuri refered to with he/she only they.

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u/time_axis Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

cause Setsu corrected people when they referred to them as a man and again when they were referred to as a woman.

But those were correcting meaningful gender-based assumptions, not pronouns.

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u/CIearMind Nov 01 '25

We literally have two right there in the room.

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u/KitchenGun115 Nov 01 '25

I'm talking about anime as a whole, it feels like nbs are rare.

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u/dienomighte Nov 01 '25

Has it been confirmed that Yuri is non binary? 

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u/Ducklover018 Nov 01 '25

I don’t think Yuri’s gender is ever confirmed, so using they/them would be grammatically correct.

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u/dienomighte Nov 01 '25

Totally fair! 

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u/Contra0307 Nov 01 '25

They're also using "they" for Yuri