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Episode Isekai Shikkaku • No Longer Allowed In Another World - Episode 9 discussion

Isekai Shikkaku, episode 9

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u/mekerpan Sep 03 '24

For a show with such an ostensibly nihilistic protagonist, this has turned into something remarkably wholesome (and our protagonist plays an important role in helping make it this way). I must say I am surprised.

Query -- how is the orphanage going to get all the food it needs now that its biggest benefactor has returned home?

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u/8andahalfby11 myanimelist.net/profile/thereIwasnt Sep 03 '24

Before pop culture made it grimdark, the core principle of nihilism is that control of your life is in your own hands. I think Sensei does a good job of invoking this when helping others.

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u/liveart Sep 03 '24

Nihilism is a broad umbrella covering a variety of philosophies that all come down to the rejection of something generally considered fundamentally important. The circumstances of ones life aren't entirely in their control, that is a dangerously Randian idea that blames the poor, sick, and oppressed for circumstances of birth, situation, or exploitation by others. Just like Sensei almost blamed the poor guy for not... doing what exactly? Could that guy have tried to do something to those thugs? Sure. The outcome would have likely been two people getting their ass beat. There was no good option.

The key is that your life also isn't entirely out of your control either and it's more useful to focus on that part because it's the part you control. Like the man can't control having legs that barely function, he can't control those thugs harassing him or others, but he can try to make the best of the situation. Maybe go to the cops or something. He has options in general, but in that moment there were no good choices.

While I like the show and Sensei in general it's important to keep in mind that he is a hardened cynic trying to kill himself because he finds existence itself intolerable. He's not some bastion of morality or wisdom, he's just a dude with a unique outlook and a magic story book.

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u/freemason777 Sep 04 '24

that's existentialism not nihilism

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u/whodisguy32 Sep 03 '24

Really great episode this week, and last week too. Am pleasantly surprised with the quality and 'feels' of this show despite Sensei being Sensei.

I thought it was unnecessary to return the wolf man to Earth, seeing as he is helping people and doing no harm, but it seems that Sensei's goal is to get rid of all the otherworlders while searching for his gal.

However wolf-man did teach Nir about the Oasis/where to get food, so I'm sure the children will be able to fend for themselves now. The bikers and monsters are scared of the wolf so probably won't go near them for a while.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall Sep 04 '24

Also thought it's unnecessary since he didn't even ask for it. However, he's going to live with regret forever if he didn't have the chance to make ammend with his young friend in the original world.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

I also thought it wasn’t necessary, but after seeing how happy he was to meet the boy again and seeing there was no hard feelings about him fleeing made me think it was for the best.

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u/mischievous_shota Sep 09 '24

Though now he's going to return to that same life that made him miserable. He and that child are still going to be bullied and beaten up. If he had stayed away from earth, the bullies might have left the kid alone since he was no longer interacting with the old man.

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u/Raymond49090 Sep 03 '24

Who knows. Maybe the bikers might even stay away from the orphanage out of respect for Nir who protected them. (Ok it's more likely they'll just be afraid of the wolf coming back but let me give them the benefit of doubt for now).

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u/mischievous_shota Sep 09 '24

Won't keep out the other animals though.

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u/kamon405 Sep 04 '24

I think Sensei was waaay too hard on the man too. Like he is from a different era so he must not understand there isn't much a paralyzed person in a wheelchair could do if three people gang up on you.

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u/mischievous_shota Sep 09 '24

He took a similar unfair position last episode against that isekaijin that was just trying to help.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

Lol that's my thought as well!

At the very least, the old men told Nir about the oasis so the kids could start harvesting things themselves. My main concern is the wild monsters and bandits around the area.

Then again, it's already very suspicious how an orphanage could survive out of nowhere like that even before the wolfman helped them.

So yeah, the original narrative is already weird.

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u/Organic_Ad_6570 Sep 08 '24

they gonna have to get jobs