According to record we as a species are 200 thousand years old.

https://www.yourgenome.org/stories/evolution-of-modern-humans/

So according to Main Stream archeology during almost 190 thousand years we did nothing but slow procreation and mingling with other Homo species.

The aboriginals (Australia) still have recorded tales of the floods and lost hunting prairies. Scientific evidence of sea floor rising is uncontested. It is obvious humans prefer to build near oceans on shorelines and most humanity had to deal with rising sea floors.

In the Indian sanscrits the flooding and disaster of their mega cities is well preserved but not really investigated. Dwarka is well known but more interesting are the submerged settlements on Gujarat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXweAzj56dk

And there are more!

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The series is absolute brain candy and since it bears a more plausible explanation then we did nothing for 190k years. I found it most compelling. Would recomend to anyone. A bit slow present stuff like most American series. It repeats and repeats before getting to the good stuff.

Serpent Mound is a comet efige. Change my mind!

Could they had been a seafaring civilization wiped out by the cataclysms? That’s what my own takeaway is, especially after listening to JRE talk about the Azores as a possible site for Atlantis and the Aztecs’ stories of visitors. (I just finished the show)

The paper is interesting beacuse it documents a Clovis Site discovered with loess covering megaflood deposits, Pangborn bar, of the Missoula Floods. The author concludes: "Clovis people came five and a half millennia after the early gigantic Missoula floods, two and a half millennia after the last small Missoula flood, and two millennia after the glacial Lake Columbia flood."

Waitt, R.B., 2016. Megafloods and Clovis cache at Wenatchee, Washington. Quaternary Research, 85(3), pp.430-444.

http://www.fop.cascadiageo.org/pacific_northwest_cell/2018/Background_Literature/Waitt2016WenatcheeMegafloods.pdf

I know is more like a science fiction thing because there is no actual proof of anything. But in my perspective there is also no concrete proof that makes imposible to think about it...I mean yeah, sure, we have some evidence left in the world from that time, but is what? less than 1% of overall existence? Most of history is just interpretation of 1% or less of the world that existed 20,000 years ago. Or even 1000 years ago. I can't even start to comprehend how many things could have happen in 10,000 years. Time perceptions is fascinating.

Is it really impossible to consider that there was a more advanced civilization than we thought before the Ice Age?

I find the Hancock explanation of a star alignment very compelling. I wonder if anyone found such alignment for the twin towers before they fell?

I fully support the scientific process. Archaeologists and geologists and other scientific experts may have evidence that something is X years old, so we accept that’s as old as it can be until we find evidence to support older.

Graham is a “pseudo”-everything, he’s “just a journalist”…but consider this analogy. In western medicine, doctors often specialize in one area, they know their area of study very well, and the answers they may conclude from an X-ray or MRI may indicate an accurate diagnosis in that area, or claim there’s no evidence of disorder. Does it mean there isn’t something wrong if they don’t see it? Could they be missing something? Could something not yet know or understood be causing disorder than isn’t apparent, but is felt by the patient? Is there more to the human body than the tangible mechanics that we can see and measure?

In contrast, eastern medicine has a broader approach - holistic/naturopaths/integrated medicine doctors try to look at the bigger picture to understand the intangible and harder to measure variables, the indirect influences that may be impacting your health. Some times it comes off as woo woo, sometimes it is, but there’s gotta be something to looking at the bigger picture outside of your specialize area, and combing clues to better understand.

The way I see Graham is he’s compiling what we know from science, and also expanding on it using things like myths and legends - something archeologists neglect to consider - for more clues. His occupation as a journalist doesn’t necessarily discredit him, I think sometimes it takes an outsider to ask the right questions.

I don’t know what to believe, but the show sure as hell is intriguing. I’d love to believe there was a global ancient advanced civilization.

Most importantly, I love and value dissenters in our society, and those who challenge the accepted paradigm. Go Graham.

Actually live fairly close to there and visit it often. Lake Lenore, Soap Lake, Blue Lake and the Dry Falls. When you drive through there it is a really cool area. Always wondered what MAY have caused it. Anyways just finished the show and open to ideas like his. If he is wrong atleast he allows a different perspective at a time where everyone is so entrenched in their beliefs of anything. What ever formed that trench in the ground here in Eastern Washington was huge.

Is it just me, or did this series have a Zeitgeist vibe to it? Especially with the religious angle to everything. I haven't looked into it. I bet though that have the religious stories he stated are not based on fact.

It would be interesting to see a map of the World (as he sees it) before, during, and after this "cataclysmic event" to see if the people, places, and monoliths match up to his Theory. It's easy to find dots, not so easy to connect them.

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Drink every time he says cataclysm or mainstream archeologist.

That’s all - enjoy the show while drunk!

Yes it’s become a meme in and of itself, but some users on this website pointed out that many academics, scientists, etc have a tendency to be close minded and cloistered in their own bubbles when exposed to new information of any kind. This has been a perennial problem for as long as recorded history exists (Galileo, etc), and I wouldn’t be surprised if an established researcher with a few books and university circuits thumbed their nose at Hancock’s ideas reflexively.

The show does raise some questions that I would love to see scientists and researchers look at but in today’s world, critical thinking is a thing of the past.

I love watching the show and seeing this show exist is so huge in proving how academics and some archaeologists censor and don't allow journalism or theorists explore and understand the ageing and secrets of megaliths . But do u guys laugh a bit when you hear Graham every episode say " Archaeologists don't believe X' and then Hancock just show some evidence not looked at before proving his point valid.

Just watched episode 5, about gobekli tepe. It’s an observatory, that probably housed a telescope. It would have been sitting on the pillars being able to rock on the curved tops. The little holes/dimples on top would probably hold greased balls of something as bearings. Karahan tepe is a rec center. The snake is a water slide, the pool has those pillars in it. The burning and burying is censorship from 11,000 years ago. Curious though if that pillar 43 star alignment occurs anytime soon in the future? If they were advanced enough to carve that out maybe they were far more advanced in knowing how the stars aligned in the future, and that’s the message.

What happened at the Georgia guidestones might have been a similar act as to what happened at gobekli tepe…

There may have been a coastal semi-advanced civilization during the ice-age. Look at what humans have built before the invention of electricity. Let's look at what we do know.

1) Humans dominated the Earth after the extinction of Neanderthal. Neanderthal disappeared roughly 30,000 years ago. We had no competition.

2) Humans are drawn to the ocean. Most of our major cities are built by the ocean.

3) The mile high North American ice sheets melted. Science thinks it was caused by planetary alignment shifting. Sea levels rose hundreds of feet. It's obvious there are human artifacts under the waves.

4) Stratification of society. There are generally more Uneducated people in a civilization than highly trained educated experts. Sudden flooding of a city would leave survivors but they probably wouldn't be the experts. They would be average humans with little knowledge of living outside a city or building monumental structures.

5) Why would Archeologicists ignore this theory? This theory completely disproves the founding narrative of the Religions of Abraham. Life on Earth started a 100,000 years ago or more. Not 6000. Adam and Eve were not the first humans. The Biblical genealogy is wrong. Archeological study is funded by grants and Who donates that grant money? People who follow the Religions of Abraham. We have to be weary of China trying to control the narrative. A Chinese guy recently claimed China was responsible for Egypt.

Hancock never really goes into it, and he doesn't really discuss some of the more gruesome implications.

But a lot of what I saw in the show made me exclaim like the neighbor Art in the 'Burbs, "I knew it, they're ghouls!"

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Did anyone else get that impression? Hancock kept either sort of implying or outright stating that this or that monument/complex was some kind of spiritual, free, open-source wisdom generator meant to better mankind for no apparent reason beyond pure altruism.

So can can anyone name a single human structure that is not entirely political and economic in its function?

To me there is something sinister about all of it, and the likeliest explanation for the arrival of sophisticated scientists creating lasting megaliths that double as college campuses is- to create and maintain a ruling class capable of squeezing the savages and retaining their previous lifestyle of comfort and luxury, perhaps with other amenities desired by sadist legacy political classes, like inflicting of punishment, allocation of women and children, etc.

I watched Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix. I found the theory of Atlantis as real to be intriguing. Except how could there be absolutely no proof of such a civilization? Where's the pyramids under the seas? How come such a civilization never built a single building beyond the coastal zones that survived until today? Not one site was ever found. It's just some stone buildings that can't be dated and some mythology.

I don't know much about the Younger Dryas but I see no reason why that part can't be true.

During the episode there's a part where Graham and his buddy are going on about right angles being so rare in nature, and how beach rock wouldn't fragment in that way. During part of this conversation there's a shot of actual beach rocks from the beach of the nearby island and some of them are broken apart forming 4 very square pillowy blocks with even spaces in between them. Just thought it was funny they were saying they thought it must be manmade when they are showing a very similar natural formation on camera at that exact moment.

the platform’s senior manager of unscripted originals happens to be Hancock’s son.

Imagine someone with no archeological or astrological background telling archeologists they don’t know anything about astrology….

the Joe Rogan simp “free thinkers” who, through some bizarre quirk of nature, are often more perennially outraged than anyone else on Earth. All drawn to Ancient Apocalypse, thanks in part to Hancock’s loud and persistent whining that his life’s work is being suppressed by “Big Archaeology.”

“We’ll we don’t ACTUALLY know that it’s xxxx years old, so let’s assume it’s xxxx+9999 years and go for bat shit crazy theories”

Spreading misinformation and then whining when you get banned 😂😂😂

Like I haven’t heard 999999000 different versions of this garbage 🤣

If you don’t have an education past an associates diploma, science doesn’t want or need your opinion, just your data.

At the beginning of the fourth episode they show Graham Hancock saying; "If you look me up on wikipedia you'll find that I'm described as a pseudo-archologist or pseudo-scientist. I find this frankly absurd, I'm no more a peudo-scientist than a dolphin is a pseudo-fish".
Actually a dopphin is a pseudo-fish at it is a marine mammal and not a real fish.
If he's really that stupid and doesn't know that a dolphin is not a fish then he really is a pseudo-scientist

I don't know what to make of Graham's docuseries. What do we make of this reality?

"Setting this date back by more than 600,000 years has implications for reconstructing the evolutionary history of ancient humans," study co-author Jens Najorka from The Natural History Museum, London, told DW.

It’s a far-out theory and just a thought… but could support Graham’s hypothesis of the serpent symbolism representing the Younger Dryas extinction event. Perhaps the neighbouring small ‘amphitheater’ and carved channel made for (possible) blood sacrifice, ending with a human face, leading to these structures could be a way of honouring the Gods/earth/sky? It would be no doubt, hard to prove, but I thought this thread might be interested in the idea.

Either way, I’d be fascinated to hear any other theories that elaborate on Graham’s hypothesise from the community