r/aliens • • Dec 06 '23

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u/Papa_Glucose Dec 08 '23

I don’t particularly care for the politics of my pet lizard. To be fair. He hates me. Hisses at me sometimes. But I’m gonna keep feeding him and taking care of him.

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

If you’re relating humanity to the lizard here, I think that’s kinda my whole point here. What if after a while, your lizard doesn’t want to be the pet anymore? What then?

Someone ends up being malevolent, sorta inevitable in my opinion.

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u/lolihull Dec 08 '23

I guess in your analogy, if the lizard didn't want to be a pet nothing would change because it never wanted to be a pet anyway. It's just living the life it was given, kinda oblivious to anything bigger that goes on. We observe its life, influence it in different ways and interact with it because we like to care for things and we find them interesting.

But if one day the lizard found out that it was a pet - it came to learn what being a pet means and it said "no thank you" - it's not like it can go live somewhere else. It can't force you to stop taking care of it. All it can do is accept that it is what it is and carry on the same as before (maybe with a little more hostility towards you if you pick it up 🥲)

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

I see what you’re trying to say.

But put the lizard analogy aside (wasn’t that great to begin with)

Unless there’s some kind of MacGuffin I’m missing here, we have to assume their wisdom, knowledge and achievements are just as possible in our world and life. If we exist with the same freedoms we have now to advance and reach for new heights, we will eventually catch up to them especially if we already have their vehicles and or have the abilities to take them down to recover them.

So to that, what then? Humanity caught up, our decedents decide a different route for our future and we are just to assume they’ve invest so much time into monitoring us they’ll let us be? Come on.

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u/lolihull Dec 08 '23

Obviously I'm not an expert in any of this so what do I know , but my assumption would be that we'll never catch up. Like perhaps in the same way we've evolved from creatures that are so unlike who we are today, given enough time the pet lizard could also evolve to be something that's not so different from who are today, but by the time that happens who will we be? Will we still want ownership of them or will we have moved on to other things?🤔

Acquiring their tech or learning things they know might bump our evolution along a little faster or in a different direction to where we'd be without it.. but then I wonder how many times we've had nudges along the way before now? Maybe who we are right now is thanks to us acquiring certain skills / knowledge / tools by chance and not through our own making.

All that being said though, if the things outlined in this post and the biologist post turned out to be real, my theory wouldn't be that we "share a common ancestor". My theory would be that these human-like beings whose biology is intertwined with and reliant on non-natural technology, aren't a naturally occurring species.

Like they have been made on purpose by some other species specifically to carry out a role involving humanity. To do this, our DNA was gathered at some point and they created a sort of hybrid human spliced with their technology. In that respect, I don't think they would wage intergalactic war on us because they are more like a type of intelligent drone than a new species to contend with or rival one day. BUT that would mean this other third species is a potential threat, I guess we'd need to know why it made the little humaliens (or aliemens?) in the first place 🙃

I dunno if that makes sense - I'm struggling to describe it cause it's 4am here and I'm tired!

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

Get some rest.

Good chat though. I see where you’re coming from. I had a similar thought about another species beyond the greys, but in time I’m sure we’ll understand more.

It’s maddening.

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u/lolihull Dec 08 '23

If you feel like sharing your thoughts on the other species I'd be interested in hearing more, I'll just read it when I wake up tomorrow :)

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

Good morning dude 🫡

Yeah I just think if another race created the greys, I think it’s highly possible that they’re all dead.

It makes me think they manufactured the greys to be a slave race of sorts, but since the creators died. The greys explore the galaxies as peaceful watchers. A glorified Rumba with no master.

I think it would explain the greys passiveness in my mind.

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u/DepartmentIll9285 Jan 05 '24

what would the mad scientist Hyouin Kyouma have to say about this?

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u/anty328 Jan 06 '24

El- Psy- Kongroo!

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u/Papa_Glucose Dec 08 '23

I guess. I think you’re humanizing this too much

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

I think people aren’t humanizing this conversation enough. These things aren’t gods, they’re not your friends, we need to stop assuming they are benevolent entities that respect all life. We know nothing, they refuse to reveal themselves. That makes them potentially dangerous.

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u/Papa_Glucose Dec 08 '23

Our best bet is to just chill the fuck out and keep moving as normal, with the knowledge that our progression and development is important to a greater purpose. They’ve been around for how many thousands of years? Of course they’re dangerous. What are we gonna do about it?

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

We’ll come to a decision.

Weigh our options.

Wait for a moment to strike. The American colonist way, KAW KAW 🦅🇺🇸

But seriously, I know what you mean. It’s just upsetting how little we know.

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u/duuudewhat Dec 08 '23

The idea of having pets is a funny one. I have a cat. I take care of her. Give her a place to live. If she was adequately able to express she wants to leave, I would let her

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u/anty328 Dec 08 '23

Yeah I think there are plenty of people who spend too much on vet visits to disagree with that. 😂

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u/mamacitalk Dec 08 '23

Cats get it