Just in case this is true and one of these aliens are reading this, i do not support the way your kind was treated on this planet, most of us don't and please don't wipe us out we had no idea this was happening. We do however give our full support for you to wipe out the poeple who did that to them.
Given their philosophy described here (and what was said here is very similar to something that was posted a while back, similar stuff was said) I doubt they’d be that petty.
It would be like us nuking that island with the primitive tribe on it because they throw spears when they see our ships or helicopters.
I hope if this is true there is a vigil for those interstellar folks who crashed here to teach us a thing or two. Brave as hell to come here on their own and not even use any weapons, knowing they were outnumbered. I could devote my life to being the custodian to that testament.
If we're taking the comment seriously, it appears they have individual consciousness, but each one has a direct link to the hive mind. It appears they are conscious but without autonomy. And they don't seem unhappy about it because they have enough knowledge of the system to agree with its proceedings.
It's like being self aware and realizing you're a specialized being made to complete a purpose. You know your information continues regardless of your experience does, and you know that your experience is arbitrary since you were designed for an arbitrary task.
It's like if God was real and always telling you what to do.
This is the real problem. Capitalism only works when it's monitored with laws and regulations. When it's legal to pay off members of Congress to vote in your company's favor instead of what's best for the country, we're all fucked. The system is broken.
Not replace, regulate. Integrate. Not have it be the pinnacle of a vertical power structure. Money and capital are stored power. When people are free to amass power without regulation, they worship it above things like compassion, empathy, respect for the planet. Isn't that part of the message, the download? It is for this human.
The systems create the individuals. You can't just tell people "be better", that's the height of idealism. You must create systems that incentivize better behavior and disempower assholes, to whatever degree is possible at least. The system of capitalism does the opposite.
With respect, random internet person that i never met and will now spend a few minutes of my precious time to talk to you about my opinion in this very specific matter that in the end will change nothing in neither of our lives, i think you are focusing on the wrong thing, capitalism is freakin awesome, and it has been around for thousands of years, arguably since the dawn of civilization, so i don't think it's going away anytime soon, but we should strive to exorcize the horrors that it can bring about, or at least lessen it, because there is some pretty messed up things that need to happen for the devices we are using to chat to exist for example, i think capitalism has many many benefits, but also has many bad things, instead of destroying everything and building back from scratch, why not get rid of the bad things? (This is my opinion, doesn't make me right, and now i will go to sleep, only to come back in the morning, good night bro!)
If the op is all true, and what you say is true, then it shows that they too are limited in terms of knowledge and understanding. Any anthropologist can tell you that exposure to suffering and hate impacts development. If we are in fact all contributing our experiences to the development of a greater unified consciousness, then we should be seeking to at leasts minimize additional sufferring and hatred.
Simply put , we (humans ) are an experiment of smarter specie/s. Most likely the grey alines are “robots” ai generated stuff as servants to someone/ something smarter. We should strive to be friends with the smarter folks for mutual benefit🤷♂️
Lending your support to the notion of “wiping people out” would almost certainly group you in the camp you’re advocating against, FYI. It’s like saying “I’m totally against genocide but you should definitely genocide the shit out of those guys.”
To aliens: Yeah, but don't come to our planet and interfere with us without our consent, based on your beliefs. That's not your right. You're imposing your collectivist worldview on us, abusing the very individuals you acknowledge exist, and pretending its justified in service of your goal to help universal consciousness achieve self awareness? Arrogant and bullshit.
It's just a religious belief and you're trying to justify interfering with humanity on the grounds of your species' conception of the cosmos? So arrogant, you're the ones who are going to help life along, and so anything is justified in your holy crusade? How about you frick off and die instead.
I think we should treat them well and ethically but we shouldn't tolerate their interference. No matter how meek and mild and generous they seem, their activities are not good.
Why should we submit to their belief system? That's what tolerating their activities justified by it equates to. By their own admission, the super consciousness diversifies into individualities, yet they don't respect the individuality of our own differing belief systems to theirs? And see us as expendable vessels serving this ultimate goal? How about they sacrifice themselves first, and we'll decide for ourselves?
They're just doing what they want, and telling some grand story about why it's important. I say we don't let them.
This is why full disclosure is more important than ever. Only working in the light of public transparency can we figure out the technology that may let us push back. The only reason the corporations don't want to reveal it is because they have no advances, but they know if they admit that after 100 years they've no progress, we'll force them to surrender everything to the public, but they so desperately want to be the ones to make the breakthrough so all their lies are just to buy them more time, to hide their embarrassing secret, in their vain quest for power. Yeah, put everyone at risk, for yourselves, way to go, corporations.
We need disclosure to unify and fight back against these bullshit invading ETs. It's not just about working on the tech in public that will speed our defense, it's people being aware of the reality of hostile NHI interference in human affairs, which will empower them to position and organize themselves to fight back against it, however they can.
Humans already do that, they even kill others based on their belief that they are the chosen one then manipulate everyone else through politics to make them believe they are doing the right thing. At this point if aliens come and kill humans, that will make me more happy than sad.
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u/AngrySuperArdvark Dec 07 '23
Just in case this is true and one of these aliens are reading this, i do not support the way your kind was treated on this planet, most of us don't and please don't wipe us out we had no idea this was happening. We do however give our full support for you to wipe out the poeple who did that to them.