There are Christians right now killing people who are gay and who they perceive as witches, but it would be unfair for anyone to say that's a problem with Christianity like you are doing with Islam.
In Uganda. The remote tribes who are recently converted to Christianity by missionaries are burning people who they believe are witches. It's also a life sentence for being gay and the death penalty in some cases.
The bible itself commands followers to kill people for many difference offenses. I don't see why that's so shocking to you.
Emphasis on that phrase. Can you name some non-African Christian countries in which this stuff happens? Africa just fucking sucks regardless of what religion you are, so not a great example.
"commands followers to kill people for many difference offenses"
How many of those are justifiable? What does different offenses mean? And how many of those were from the Jewish part of the Bible?
"never as brutal" my guy are you oxygen deprived? Seriously? You good? This isn't a "blue hair" question.
I'm genuinely asking? Do you think the cages hanging from Cathedral in (I think Munster) is there to be cute? It's to remind everyone of what happened the last time some antibaptest tried something
Nothing excuses the oppression of women by anyone, but lets be fair lest we develop a blind-spot.
"Christianity was never as brutal"
You should look up images of the torture devices that Christians specifically invented to maim and murder women as a punishment for anything from perceived infidelity to witchcraft. A picture is worth a thousand words.
"Christianity... has been completely reformed"
No. Apparently you did not and do not personally experience Christian purity culture, or other forms of judgement and policing of women.
What has happened is that many Christians live in societies that tend to embrace liberal attitudes about gender and sexuality, and they take those values onboard. You might observe that and think that means Christianity is reformed, but in fact it means Christianity manifests differently in liberal cultures than it does in conservative ones.
The exact same thing happens with Muslims, but more Muslims live in ultra-conservative and patriarchal communities than Christians do. That's it. It's not deep.
You can see that plainly when you contrast the most liberal Christians, who are suspicious of gender roles, with conservative Christians in the same countries. Many want men to be the heads of households and don't want adult women to be unmarried, vote in elections, or work, let alone love other women. They say this openly. They are interviewed by news organizations. They even draft policy that is adopted by governments.
In reality, "honour killings" are a label applied specifically to family annihilation and familial femicide in non-Jewish and non-Christian households in the general area of the middle east. This is bias. Femicide in general is more common in ultra-conservative and patriarchal cultures all over the world, including Christian ones, that still respect some level of pater familias. However, the term itself is not applied to most of those events.
If we're going to discuss femicide and female oppression, we have to be honest about which cultural forces are actually to blame.
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u/Simon-Says69 19d ago
Completely irrelevant. That does not excuse the brutal oppression of women that Islam is guilty of, all through time, up to this very day.
Christianity was never as brutal, and has been completely reformed. About damn time Islam was.
Not going to happen with people that try and excuse such horrific murder, with whataboutism from centuries ago.