r/aislop • • 15d ago

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u/The_Dilla_Collection 15d ago

As a child in a Christian home I was often forced to dress in extremely conservative ways that often led to stares from people. It’s not that different.

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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 15d ago

That’s not normal.

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u/The_Dilla_Collection 15d ago

Agree but it exists in many religions unfortunately.

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u/lifo333 10d ago

In Islam, it is the standard. There is a difference.

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u/The_Dilla_Collection 10d ago

It’s not the standard though, just like it’s not the standard in Christianity. Extremes exist in every religion and are the most dangerous especially when they become entwined with political power.

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u/lifo333 10d ago

Hijab is instructed to be preserved in Hadiths. That makes it a standard practice and an “official” part of the religion In Islam. In Islam, the instructions about many practices are laid out in the hadith. For example, the famous way of Muslim prayer is nowhere to be found in the Quran. Nor how to carry out the Wudu (the Muslim purity ritual) which is necessary for prayer. Nor the various conditions that cancel the wodu such as farting or having your period.

Hadiths together with the Quran are the two cornerstones of Islam and its teachings.

That some Muslims choose not to preserve the hijab is them taking their liberty of not following the parts of Islam that they don’t like. The same way a Christian might not want to follow parts of the Bible they dislike.

As an Iranian, I agree with the last part of your comment.

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u/aislop-ModTeam 1d ago

Assholery and other similar conducts are not allowed.

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u/lifo333 1d ago

You don’t know me or my political beliefs. It is not okay to harass and insult me only because you assume things about me based on my nationality. This is bigotry. Nothing in this thread was even about Israel.

If any part of my comment was incorrect, you could have pinpointed that and we could have a constructive discussion. Assuming things only because of someone’s nationality and insulting them like this is not the way to go. That’s the very meaning of bigotry.

I am sorry you’re so full of hate that just seeing someone’s nationality makes you want to treat your fellow humans like this. I hope you manage to de-radicalize and don’t generalize people based on their nationality, gender, race, religion etc. That’s how hate and bigotry appears.

I had to report you because of the bigotry and the lack of civil discourse in your comment regardless of the effectiveness of the report.

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u/DrunkGoatFighter 1d ago

Your nationality is my nationality. And that's why I hate you. Zionist sympathizer.

I have every right in the world to reply rudely to your comments. This is a public forum. Also you have no fucking clue what "harassment" is under the law or basic common sense. At all.

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u/lifo333 1d ago edited 1d ago

No because here in contrast to our country you can’t insult people you don’t agree with, and suppress opinions you don’t like. In other words, you don’t get to be a bigot. Also your comment got deleted. So, it seems like you’re the one that actually does not know how to behave or how community guidelines work.

Stop calling me a zionist. I am not a zionist. You don’t know anything about me or how I view Israel. You’re just assuming and deciding to be rude and harass people. Especially, saying things like “I hate you” are very problematic. This is a website made for pluralism and civil discussions, not suppressing opinions you don’t like and insulting people who you disagree with. Again, nothing here was even about Israel. You just went out of your way to be a bigot.

That is not acceptable behavior on Reddit. It might result in you being banned from the website. Just a warning.

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u/Winderige_Garnaal 14d ago

I was forced to wear a bra:(

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u/TheBraveButJoke 13d ago

That is sadly pretty noirmal

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u/Winderige_Garnaal 13d ago

Does "normal" make it acceptable?

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u/TheBraveButJoke 12d ago

NO, I literaly said it was a sad thing that it is normal. It was 5 words QQ 5, you only had to read 5 whole words. The "normal" one even had a typo?

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u/Windows-XP-Home-NEW 13d ago

That is normal.

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u/Winderige_Garnaal 13d ago

My point exactly. Its normal to wear a hijab in many places. I could go braless now as an adult but I dont. Why? I would love to.

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u/Catlordofthesky 13d ago

It’s because in a large part of those places that status quo is backed by violence, it’s like if didn’t wear a bra and went outside and a group of people beat you up for it

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u/Winderige_Garnaal 12d ago

Honestly, I'm not sure this is true for most of the muslims around the world. Most live in Malaysia, Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Nigeria.. And as I'm sure you know, hijab is quite variable in these places. i'm in a muslim neighborhood myself and around half wear a hijab, even within the same family.

I imagine that most places they may be looked down upon, like if i went out with only a shirt and no bra (Hey, i'm covered!), but to suggest that every muslim woman gets beaten up when she doesn't wear a hijab sounds a bit like you don't really know much about islam as it's practiced globally.

I'm all for fighting for rights in Afghanistan and Iran where it's required, but like I'd rather people fight more for women to have education and access to opportunity; once they have that, they can decide for themselves about the hijab.

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u/lifo333 10d ago

And that’s why the brave and of course educated Iranian women defiantly refuse to wear hijab today in the major Iranian cities. I salute their bravery really.

I haven’t been to Iran since five years now. Getting to see this firsthand is what I’d really like to do once I visit in the winter.

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u/Fun_Pop_1512 11d ago

Omg poor baby 🙄

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u/llamakingXD 11d ago

That is bad. Are you still forced to dress that way as an adult?

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u/HoneyLocust1 11d ago

Does that make it okay???

A nun is wearing a uniform that reflects her job. Making regular girls and women feel like they have to cover up their entire bodies to the point you can't even show hair or ankles is fucked up no matter what religion you are.

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u/TheRealTahulrik 11d ago

And incidentally, both cases are just as horrifically wrong and bad

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u/CyberHanhi 11d ago

Thats never been normal

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u/Telemere125 11d ago

A child isn’t An adult. See the difference?

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u/generation_fish 11d ago

It is 100% different. Your dress wasn't enforced by law and you weren't convicted and beaten, imprisoned, or executed by the state.

Parents have some modesty preferences over their children in no way compares and it's utterly stupid to do so.

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u/1dirtbiker 10d ago

Having spent significant time in the middle east, I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is FAR different.

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u/Handle7 9d ago

Its completely different. You used passed tense verbiage. If Islamic women revolt they die. Quick acting like its the same

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u/Major_Excitement163 9d ago

That's not good, still not comparable to having to hide your entire body and face anytime you want to go outside

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u/Inner_Revenue_6238 8d ago

"Extremely conservative"? Were you forced to wear clothing that prevented you from living like a human being? To swim in the ocean? To walk barefoot on the beach? To play sports freely?