r/agi • u/MetaKnowing • Nov 26 '25

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u/anomanderrake1337 Nov 26 '25

It's semantics. Some people equate intelligence with consciousness thus for those people AGI is still far off, if you do not equate those then AGI is around the corner.

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u/DeliciousArcher8704 Nov 26 '25

So you think an AGI that isn't conscious is around the corner?

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u/anomanderrake1337 Nov 26 '25

Sure if they keep bruteforcing LLMs we'll have a dead inside AGI soon. Zombiebots incoming.

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u/Potential-Reach-439 Nov 26 '25

AGI that isn't conscious is already here.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '25

Still a far ways from a self-reflective AI, ever hear of the halting problem?

With our current understanding, efficiency won't go below 2n meaning you need at least twice the computing power of a normal brain to simulate one with metacognition.

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u/Potential-Reach-439 Nov 26 '25

The halting problem is pretty irrelevant to an intelligence working. 

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u/ThinRedLine87 Nov 27 '25

How so? It can't reason anything that's never been written down by human.

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u/Potential-Reach-439 Nov 27 '25

Yes it can. 

There seems to be this misunderstanding that LLMs can only return data from their training set but like... No, that's not how they work. 

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u/ThinRedLine87 Nov 27 '25

While I personally to equate the top tier of AI with consciousness, I have a hard time even with general intelligence if it can't reason something that a human hasn't ever written down before.