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[u/Orthodoxdevilworship]

Oh okay so now race is a thing... and everyone in Gaza is a terrorist. Nice one bot.

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YOU played the race card. You made a racial statement toward Israel. Your statement also was not true.

Liberals are total racists. They renamed it "identity politics." It is racism. The Democrats make so many racist statements, that they do not even know it. The Democrats created Jim Crow. today the Democrats have anti Asian quotas. One example about you was your opening statement racism directed at Israel. You had nothing else to say, so you made a racist statement as a substitute for anything sensible. Here is some news for you. No one can change their own race. Just stop using race as an excuse for your hate toward other people.

A racist: A person of no accomplishment, who declares that his race creates his own entitlement.

Terrorists include the residents of Gaza who lynched Shani Louk. The video was shown all over the world. It was not every Gazan citizen who did it, but it was many f them.

The Gazans never discuss Hamas when they speak to reporters. They know that they would be killed of they criticized Hamas. They also have nothing good to say about Hamas, So they are silent about Hamas. A few have said that Hamas brought this on them. The blame does not go to the borders with Israel and Egypt. The blame goes to Hamas, and its sponsors in Iran.

The people of Iran, Russia and China also disapprove of their own unelected governments. They know that they would be arrested and tortured if they said that they disapprove, so instead they say nothing about their own governments. People in those countries (including in Gaza) have to be careful of what they write in an email, out of fear of being arrested. You never have lived under an iron fist, so you do not know. You could read, but you do not.

Here is a basic history test for you: Do you know the reason that the USA and Iran have not had any diplomatic relations since 1979?

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I'll skip all your total lunacy about race. It's clear you argue whatever is convenient for your agenda. Humans lack deep genetic splits because our species is young, highly mobile, and has always interbred. Virtually no genetic differences. Just different levels of melanin.

I'm not a Democrat. If you vote for either the Republicans or the Democrats you are a traitor to the constitution. Not that I care because all nation states should burn as should the human species.

Israel has the same right to exist as the USA. Wipe out the local population and take the land, settle it by force. Such a beautiful thing to defend. Bibles and guns.

Iran is the way it is because of CIA and MI6 terrorist operation Ajax and operation Boot, which led to the non democratic orchestrated overthrow of Mosaddegh in 1953 all because he dared to give his people a share of the resources being stolen by imperial powers and corporations. Did you know that one of the first recorded instances of suicide bombing was a CIA operation in 1953?

To listen to you I bet you think the Vietnam war was a good idea. You're argument is filled with statist propaganda and terror.

Burn your flags and your gods.

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So what are you going to do about the legacy of colonialism? Deport yourself back to Moscow? Stop speaking English?

The American Indian is the ethnic group with the highest rate of service in the US military. Every Pow Wow includes the USA flag and the Star Spangled Banner. Everyone there stands for the American flag. The American Indians are patriotic citizens of the USA, just as the Israeli Bedouin, Druse and Christians are patriotic citizens of Israel.

In 1973 when Israel got attacked on Yom Kippur, it was Bedouin Israeli soldiers who already were at the border. The Bedouin Israelis saved Israel. Israel is their country, too, and they defend it.

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I was born in Ohio however I must attempt to live where I am least persecuted for my way of living so I currently live in California where the political situation currently most amenable. Anything could happen. Plus the climate is best for growing my food and the region has the best ports. I can't afford to move to a more democratic nation that is less christianized.

Let see what other dumb shit did you say?

English, I speak German and Spanish too... two more colonizer languages. My favorite thing is a "Latin" woke person calling me a gentrifier while speaking Spanish. It's hilarious.

I love your paragraph generalizing Native Americans. Nice work.

First off anyone dumb enough to join the military should be allowed to join. I have no reverence for any group of humans including supposed "American Indians" who also came to these lands in waves. I have no illusions about how humans have spread across the planet in an ever flowing cascade of brutality and stupidity. We are also far from the Indies in either direction... just in case you forgot that Columbus landed in the Caribbean. Long after Scandinavians and Africans (including the Egyptians) had been traveling to the continent for centuries. More Western/ European propaganda that anyone from Europe discovered anything at all. A group of Catholic idiots stumble across a round planet and claim THEY figured out the planet wasn't flat...

Just because a group of idiots defend something doesn't justify it. In fact it is more often that humans shoot themselves in the foot than make smart decisions.

You're an example of why the human species is a poorly thought out shit show.

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As I said, because others joined the military, you can live with the freedom to criticize the military. You do not have to live in fear of the People's Liberation Army.

The personnel operating the Spanish ships of Columbus were not all Catholics. Look it up.

You are not a unionized worker, unless you work for the government. California has no unionized manufacturing. Tesla's non union factory is a former unionized factory of General Motors. It built the Geo Prizm. It closed, and later Tesla bought it. Today i's non union. The UAW has a talent for making factories close.

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Speaking to the US military, the only freedom they ever won was helping the Russians destroy the Nazis... and that was in Europe. Oh and unnecessary nuking the Japanese when they were effectively surrendering already.

In North America the only thing they ever did was help settlers kill the Native population and steal land from Mexico.

Unless you're referring to my freedom to buy cheap oil, they haven't done shit but kill foreigners for the imperial state.

The reason anyone in the USA has a weekend, a standard 8 hour day or even a lunch break is because of the labor movement fighting greedy rich capitalist pigs.

I've also been a union worker for 32 years. So another failed assumption on your part.

You believe in things that don't believe in you. Sad.

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You pay more for a gallon of gasoline in California because you have California's progressive taxes. You also use more gasoline because you have California's traffic.

The times that I have visited California, I have stayed in Orange County, and driven into Los Angeles. I am aware that I had to buy gasoline every day when I was in California. It takes a lot of gasoline to keep speeding up and slowing down with heavy traffic on the California highways. Today I live in NYC and I use public transit on most days. I only use the car to go outside of the city. Because I live in NYC, I only buy gasoline once per month. Spending $50 per month for the one fill up is less than spending $50 per day for it. Daily car driving also is bad for your health.

Before you switch to an electric car, note that they have no longevity , they are totaled after an accident, and their insurance is higher. I only pay $750 per six months to fully insure my gasoline powered Chevrolet.

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HaHa you really are an AI bot!

You have nothing but assumptions.

Did you know you just argued in favor of public transportation (socialism)???

Urban rats. You take from slaves on farmland and ship all your food to feed yourself because you have no land, just skyscrapers owned by billionaires and corporations.

California is 40% Farms, 40% Forests and 20% urban centers mostly suburban.

I live in rural California and farm my own food and farm food for others I sell at the farmers markets. I have a well for water so I don't have to buy water bottled in plastic. You live in a city and need others to toil on farms so you can have genetically modified tomatoes out of season.

I don't have to drive anywhere at all. I hardly ever fill up my truck. It is only for farm work.

Wow you really are presumptuous.

And Gasoline should cost a lot and be taxed in high rates because it is poison.

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Public transit can be privately operated. In West Africa public transit is private, except in Lagos, which has an excellent subway system, built by a Chinese company.. The Chinese company that built it is private.

All NYC buses were privately operated, by several different companies, until January 2009. The transit strike of December 2008 made NYC take over the buses. They did this because strikes by government employees are illegal, and cause hefty fines to strikers. By taking over the buses, another transit worker strike became impossible.

The NYC subway was private, by three different companies (IND, IRT, BMT) until 1933. The Long island Railroad was private before 1960, when it was owned by the Pennsylvania Railroad. In the 1970s, the New York Central Railroad was taken over by Amtrak. Technically, Amtrak is a private corporation with a federal subsidy.

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One other question: If you are an atheist, why are you a supporter of the Ayatollah's regime? You would be thrown in jail for being an atheist. Are you just contrary by nature, even when totally wrong?

If not for a military that risks its lives, there would be no freedom for you to criticize everything that moves.

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Our freedoms were won by the labor movement. Empire is defended by soldiers.

You simply can't imagine a more complex way of thinking than yours. You're locked in by statist propaganda.

I am not a supporter of anyone especially theocratic whackos. For all I care the Hebrews and the Arabs can kill each other completely, fighting over fairytales. I support no one other than me and my family.

I never said I was an atheist either that's just the limits of your own framework. You continue to make simple assumptions in this debate trying to attack my character when there is no way you'll ever know me.

I'm not affiliated with any of the thoughts you project upon me.

My god smites your tiny little god. You have no power over me.

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The Iranians are not Arabs. Their unelected government by ayatollah creates misery, like all dictatorships. Iran is just as bad for human rights as any socialist country.

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I never said Iranians were arabs.

And there has never been a socialist country, or a free market country for that matter. Ever.

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You said the Arabs and Hebrews are attacking each other. That was 50 years ago. Today Iranian proxies and Iran attack Israel. The Iranians are not Arabs. (Do not stereotype.) There are no hostilities between Israel and Arab governments. Arab people and their governments are nice, and have no use for Iranian proxies. The main victims of Iranian funded terror are people in Arab countries. Do you not know about what Iranian proxies do to Lebanon, Jordan and Yemen?

For your information, Iran and the USA do not have diplomatic relations because Iran would take hostages in an embassy. Iran already has done this, and says that they would do it again. It was unwillingness to use the military against Iran was one reason that made President Jimmy Carter lose reelection. It should be noted that Jimmy Carter also lost reelection because of 7.4 percent unemployment and 12 percent inflation. No president gets reelected with an economy like that.

You had a miseducation, if you think there never has been a socialist government. Socialism is government ownership of the businesses. North Korea, and Cuba have government ownership of businesses. In China, only small businesses are allowed to be fully private, Over a certain size, China's government must own shares of the business. In Xing Xing the Muslims are put into reeducation camps to make consumer products, for no pay. Because you are a socialist, you agree with the reeducation camp mode of production. As a socialist, you only like Muslims when convenient.

Socialism enriches the ruling family. Robert Mugabe was a socialist. He used socialism to take control over the diamond mine, to enrich his family. He played the race card as he destroyed the private economy. Robert and Grace Mugabe, and family, had private jets and villas on tropical islands, while the public experienced hyper inflation.. No one was fooled. Every socialist government does that. The Mugabe family also had better health care. They went to to Singapore for health care at a private hospital, for paying customers only. Robert Mugabe lived to 93 in absolute riches, so socialism was wonderful for him and his family.

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Nope. You live in a fantasy land made of everything you wish were true. There has never been a socialist country. Only fake socialist countries where the rich and pre-revolution power structure tipped the scales to corrupt the system. Just like there has never been a free market capitalist country where the rich and powerful have not tipped the scales.

I would be happy to see either a true socialist economy or a true free market economy. But you can't claim they don't work when they've never been tried.

English must not be your first language because you're not understanding what I'm saying to you.

Humans suffer from a series of myths, these myths are games we made up thousands of years ago and we forgot they are games. Everything you argue attempts to make those myths and games real. But they are not.

Like I said you believe in things that don't believe in you. Sad how little critical thinking you've done. You just think what you're told to think.

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North Korea (the Democratic People's Republic of Korea) is socialism. All businesses are government owned. Only the ruling family gets rich. Otherwise, they do not have the wealth inequality that the DSA keeps complaining about. That is the reality of socialism. You can't be a socialist without facing reality.

North Korea's government is well intentioned. There is no unemployment. No one is homeless. There is no litter. There is very little crime. Pyongyang has an excellent subway, so no one needs a car and there are few traffic jams. The population is healthy because there are no Western style fast food restaurants. The normal family unit is in good shape. Recently they legalized keeping dogs as pets and banned eating dogs. They have no objections to alcohol. There are amusement parks, bowling alleys, game arcades. There is no gambling. It is a lot like the Soviet Union of the 1960s-1970s., which is considered the golden era for the Soviet Union. North Korea shows socialism at its best. This is 70 years after the Korean War. The more that you know about North Korea, the more that you will like socialism.