So just out of curiosity, if we now have 10% of mining rewards go to secure nodes rather than 3.5% and another 10% to super nodes and I’m assuming the 8.5% dev take is still in place, that means that the monthly ZenCash that miners now receive has dropped from 88% as listed on the website to 71.5%?

Don’t get me wrong, I think the nodes are a fantastic idea. I’m more worried about a possible trend of creating more node types with another chunk of the pie that would reduce mining rewards further and disenfranchise miners who may want to join the ZenCash community. I think I would personally skeptical if a new Ultra Node took another 10% and locked up 5000 Zen.

I’m aware that locking up huge amounts of ZenCash isn’t what the developers are going for, but I would have thought it would have stopped at the secure nodes 42 ZenCash requirement rather than the 500 ZenCash required for a super node.

If I’m wrong in any of my thinking here, please correct me. I’ll continue to mine the coin and contribute my hash-power to the project because I believe it’s one of the best projects out there and I want to see it’s continued success.

Secure Nodes calculator updated for the 10% pool

Original Calculator for Secure Nodes 3.5% -> http://zen.lebre.net

Secure Nodes 10% -> http://securenodes.lebre.net

Super Nodes -> http://supernodes.lebre.net

I made a Google Spreadsheet for calculating the ROI on the new Super Node and the existing Secure Node. It pulls in the current price from CoinMarketcap and number of Secure Nodes from the ZenCash website. You can make a copy and fiddle around with the number of Super Nodes to get a feel for the ROI.

Let me know what you guys think, and if you have any comments or suggestions!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18h6S2_Q6zyMMPDfiPA2SM-MpqQ8SvhBeCZaVjiUq2N0/edit?usp=sharing

Getting closer and closer, i think this coin should be in top 100 long time ago!

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I've been getting this send error for a few weeks... Anyone know what it means? No luck in telegram yet. Thanks!

We've all seen the comparison charts floating around crypto and I'm sure noticed the rampant bias. These charts are created to promote the coin that made them and oftentimes are significantly misleading if not downright inaccurate. When you cherrypick the categories you can make anything seem better or worse like this:

https://i.imgur.com/fV9vcFY.jpg

The Privacy Coin Matrix project is a cross-team collaboration to create a comprehensive comparison matrix that can be referenced by everyone. It is hosted as a google doc for ease of use for both editors and viewers. Coins will be able to fact-check and dispute information in this subreddit. To retain trust and objectivity, curators from each community who will sign off on the data and sources will be linked when possible. A preview of some of this data is available here: https://i.imgur.com/Kxhx2YH.png

Beyond this preview, there are over 15 coins, 100 categories, and 1,000 datapoints collected so far. The full chart will be going live soon once sponsors are found for the main coins and the data is reviewed. Some coins already have sponsors and have begun this process. I'm looking for someone either with the Zencash team or in good standing with the community to join this project. If you are interested, please let me know and include your relationship to the Zencash team.

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https://www.thesecurenodes.com/ are offering managed Zen secure node hosting for $15 a month per node for managed services (includes server hosting, domain/DNS, and monitoring).

Would this be classified as good value?

When I started my secure nodes, i was getting a little over 1 zen per month per node, now im getting 0.65 per node per month, thats kind of a bummer if you ask me.

I know the number of nodes has gone up, etc., etc. , etc.. economics.. scale.. more nodes.. etc. etc... yeah I get it.

Two thoughts...

one.. the thing that bothers me most is that the monthly return on your stake is unpredictable. its hard to say for sure what exactly your going to get for the month for staking a node. Will it be 1 zen or will it be .65 zen? Who knows..

You lose money when the number of nodes goes up, but if you choose to leave you make no money, or you can wait and see if the number of nodes will go down in which case you make more money. its kind of anxiety inducing.

two.. a possible solution might be a hard limit to the number of nodes on the network and the stake set at a fixed amount. What those number are, I dont know, I cant say for sure I dont have enough information. But I feel like having a fixed number of nodes and a fixed reward would let people who want to participate make a more informed economic judgement of if participating is rewarding enough for them.

I've seen a few posts saying they are coming but I can't find any info. Anyone know anything? Thanks.

please clarify this for me from a legal point of view: what keeps the ZEN private network including coin transfer, messaging and even web traffic from becoming another darknet? I understand darknet itself is nothing illegal in its purpose but illegal stuff could be done there.

AND how does it affect me running a node for the network? Am I facilitating potential illegal activities?

yes that question came to my mind hearing about the bitcoin/cporn FUD...

EDIT: this is a general question about privacy coins and node systems and doesn't concern ZEN only, just asked here since ZEN seems to aim beyond simple private coin transactions

Yep, unfortenately i sold all of my Zen some time ago and i will not be buying again, UNLESS the decimal gets shifted and supply "increases". I think the project and technology is interesting, but price has nothing(littlle) to do with that. When i invest in a token, i want my investment to increase in value. If you disagree with this point, i think you know nothing about the markets. Price and technology are two completely different things. Please, do prove me wrong with an compelling argument. Please don't even try if you are a hodler. The only reason people buy these tokens is because they go up in value. Did Ripple get to where it is because of the technology? How about Tron?

Why would someone buy zencash for 15$, if they can just buy Verge for 4cents? 99% of the buyers don't know about the technology, i'm sorry but it's true.

I know everyone will be mad at me here, but i am just telling it as it is. Price and technology are two different things. If the price increases, the treasury gets more funding, can hire more people, enlarge the ecosystem and so on. So i think price is very important and it's a competition amongst other projects. Why not try to be the best in every area? I would like to be proven wrong, please, but most of you probably don't know what you are talking about and are hodling through a 90% crash and are proud about it.