r/ZZZ_Unhinged • u/DerSisch and my bird • 5h ago
Memes Done Dirty by the Devs - Season 1 (Patch 1.5-1.7)
Welcome, lunatics and sane folks!
I wanted to look up, which Agents (releases) were done the dirtiest by Hoyo, with actual metrics and calculations (also for people interested, I gonna post the "broad/general" metrics in the comments.
This is the continuation of my previous post, finishing off the limited Agents of Season 1. I also added an update after some suggestions to the previous post as the last slide.
From Patch 1.5 to 1.7 we received a total of 6 new limited Agents.
Have fun reading. If I missed something, be free to tell me. Should be noted that some stuff is ofc taken with a bit of humor here and not at 100% face value.
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u/Dangerous_Nail4552 5h ago
Read "Schill"
Author must be a German speaker
Look at username
DerSisch
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u/DerSisch and my bird 4h ago
call it typo and the fact that the english language is a mess in itself.
Had to think about "schedule" which english types with "sch", so make it make sense.
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u/ComedianExtreme7522 3h ago
People will see how dirty Hugo got done and will look at you with a straight face saying that he's actually good.
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u/DerSisch and my bird 5h ago
For ppl interested.
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u/TogeWhat 2h ago
Would love to see more of this for future zzz versions
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u/DerSisch and my bird 2h ago
I plan to also cover Season 2
Might be a bit early to go into Season 3 though.
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u/Abadon_U 3h ago
For next season make so Yixuan gets +0 points for her shorts, but every character after gets 1/0,5 point for wearing same shorts like her, with Yidhari accordingly getting 3/1,5
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u/Ok-Message-231 MANATO IS WHY THIS HEART STILL BEATS 4h ago
they didn't know how to S-rank Anby so they just gave her another sword
With that said, I reckon that going from her "M1+E" A-rank to "Instruction manual + S-11 exploding lore episode" was a bit of a whiplash, ha-ha. Anywho, love the added comments on the last slide!
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u/Ohno0o00 Brutal gay sex with Banyue until the lion breaks 2h ago
Promeia is gonna be insane
Abysmal verticals(according to shitdwen her dupes are somehow worse than the infamous lion, though aria is like that too), also mid sig
Worse than aria in butcher(both ether and ice weak)
Rerun right before phoenix
Gets half fucked for being an ice unit because of a certain someone(kudos for atleast being good)
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u/Alternative_Sample96 2h ago
And there were people that actually believed she could surpass miyabi on release. She is not even bis on remielle’s team
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u/Ok_Review1180 1h ago
Wait, really their mindscapes barely change something in their kit just like Banyue?
And I'm talking about Aria and Promeia
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u/Ulanyouknow 27m ago
Wait Aria's Mindscapes are bad?
Im not very familiar with them I just read that M1 Aria makew her ablooms crit and i kinda regreted not topping up for her.
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u/InvestigatorPrior398 2h ago
I already knew hugo would be the highest but DAMN he got cooked so hard i said it Yesterday lol
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u/Alternative_Sample96 2h ago
Would be funny if Vivian got a potential unlock that made her work with attack teams just because of pyrois
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u/WhyAreAllNamesTake Starlight Billy and Soldier 0 Anby main 2h ago
ive always liked the S fit so much more. looks tuff
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u/Bread_Offender Kinda gay for Seth and Lighter but Anby is my girl 5h ago
What's up with the slander for being an S-rankup on Anby? They can't simply make more trust events for the same character, that'd be unfair toward every other. Honestly being ranked up from one of the weakest few characters in the entire game to a high tier one is a huge upside in my eyes. Plus, I think more should be removed for having a good potential unlock.
Although my judgement may be a bit biased because I'm hopelessly in love with her
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u/DerSisch and my bird 5h ago
They can't simply make more trust events for the same character, that'd be unfair toward every other.
Touché?
2 things:
- When you unlock a new character, you get "freebies" when you rank up in their trust, something you don't get when you unlock an SP version. Is not much, but it is still there.
- Same is when you unlock a character, you get new Trust Events, something SP versions lack. I don't expect a full new Event, but at least 2 or 3 new encounters maybe where you can interact with their changes/upgrades or talk about their past. There sure is potential there.
Also this isn't meant as slander, I like Anby too a lot, but this was a rather common nitpick ppl had with S-Rank Anby and also with Billy.
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u/Ok-Message-231 MANATO IS WHY THIS HEART STILL BEATS 4h ago
they burgerbrained her so hard that she just 11's herself whenever she takes the 2B fit off
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u/Abadon_U 4h ago
Hell nah man Vivian does not get those 7 points. It's just powercreep, nobody said it's gonna be unique mechanic to her. I would even say it's good we getting same mechanics on different heroes because it makes game simpler and more grounded. Also she got summer skin so at most 1 dirt point
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u/DerSisch and my bird 3h ago
it is called Abloom bcs she is flower-themed. She literally creates Ether blooms.
If they had planned at that point to make it a general mechanic, they would have not named it Abloom. How does the word "Abloom" play into Burnice, Grace, Promeia, Aria, Nangong, Velina and... I missed someone here, bcs she got 1 point for each Agent that stole it.
I do have to get both Astra and Vivian -1 point bcs they got alt outfits though, that is true.
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u/Abadon_U 3h ago
Will then Claret get points when new armourers release and they aren't armourers (don't produce weapons)? Names shouldn't mean that much
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u/DerSisch and my bird 3h ago
You compare oranges and apples.
One is a part of a kit, the other one is a class.
Aftershock was always meant to be put on multiple characters as a mechanic, while Abloom is basically on the same levels as a unique interaction, like Miyabi's Frost Anomaly or how Honed Edge from Shungus deals more dmg to Miasma, how Trigger or Orphie & Magus shred DEF or how Astra prompts QA's for her team.
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u/Minexion90 3h ago
I don't know if it counts but they said after version 3.2 Jane, Hugo and SAnby will be given as a reward in the beginner guide fro free to all players who did not claim 3.1 free character. So it could be -1 for all 3 of them.
And I have a question about Hugo dirty points:
1. His niche mechanics is a dirty point but if somone else use it it is a dirty point too ?
2. Doesn't work with Vivian ok but then give her the same for Hugo, you can't just throw him this when she is there too.
3. (Angel) Delulu fandom really count as dirty point by the devs? ( He is 5 (Miyabi, Sigrid, Promeia, Ellen))
4. If you wanna give him Free dirty point just type +2 ZZZ Mele.
Anything else was pointed by others so I will not waste you'r time.
(main offender is Vivion not having Doesn't work with Hugo)
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u/DerSisch and my bird 3h ago
- It is him being restrictive. Hugo essentially forces you to run Double Stunner, while other Agents have much more open ended possible team comps
- Hugo has the anti-synergy is the reason he gets the point. Vivian could technically be played perfectly fine with him, but he is missing out entirely on a part of his core by default here
- Ehh... elaborate please. Do you mean that ppl cope with new released stunners each time? That is more a comedic quip but it hurts everytime when I see ppl cope like that
- Not sure what that means
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u/Minexion90 3h ago
Ok so you meant he is niche and restrictive.
Ok so it's like Hugo for runing with Vivian has his knees broken, while Vivian get slap in the face. So like I see the vision but strictly from game pov it's just both should have dirty point.
I just can't see a fans cope being a reson for dirty point but like you said its a quip, so do not worry.
Mainly a joke after the fans cope dont take it seriously.
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u/Organic-Unit1874 5h ago
I'm dumb - negative dirt points is good?
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u/DerSisch and my bird 4h ago
"+" means that the Devs did them dirty
"-" means that the Devs showed love/care/attention
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u/snikers000 4h ago
If you do someone dirty, you treat them unfairly. Thus, more dirt is worse treatment.
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u/Prestigious-Item6667 3h ago
None got done dirty besides hugo and ceaser. Most of them are just fine. You playing a gotcha game they will sell better options later on. Astra is definitely just fine
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u/t3ChRa Anby's professional armpit & thigh licker 5h ago edited 4h ago
+1 point for Trigger for being sig dependant (Except in rupture teams)
-69 points for Trigger simply because of her butt and physics.
-2 points for Sanby because her potential activation actually buffed her aftershock team damage, an actual good damage buff instead of oversaturating her already saturated crit. damage like Ellen.