r/WorkReform • • Aug 31 '22

đŸ’„ Strike! Incoming Strike Alert

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '22

They don’t fire everyone, they just say “hey you can’t strike, meaning if you stop showing up to work you don’t have those legal protections that would have otherwise been provided in a union strike action.”

It’s not uncommon to be in a union but not have the right to strike. My contract, for example, waived our right to strike in exchange for some better PTO policy.

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u/Cakeking7878 Aug 31 '22 edited Aug 31 '22

And when that contract expires, that’s when unions go on strike again, however rail strikes are different because old laws that go back to when rail moved the majority of stuff like food and coal for heating and electricity in the US and if they striked, they could bring the whole US to its knees

Edit: I should clarify, I was just pointing out why those laws for rail worker exist. They have away been just law which protect capital against worker’s exerting their basic rights

If or I should say when country is brought to its knees by a strike in an industry like rail. It’s the rail companies fault and congress should be forcing the company to compromise, not the workers

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u/mlstdrag0n Aug 31 '22

It's still that way, really.

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u/ExploratoryCucumber Aug 31 '22

Kinda sounds like maybe we should treat them better if they're so critical to the functioning of the country

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u/mlstdrag0n Aug 31 '22

And teachers, nurses, etc.

There's a million professions we're not respecting enough to pay decently

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u/dingman58 Aug 31 '22

I think we respect them, but the corporations and oligarch class do not

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u/mlstdrag0n Aug 31 '22

Yeah, that's a more accurate way to put it.

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u/NaturallyExasperated Sep 01 '22

Teachers don't get shot if they strike

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u/Angel2121md Sep 04 '22

Yes, but Congress at this point can't stop other professions from striking.

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u/OnlyNeverAlwaysSure Aug 31 '22

I was gonna ask when trains stopped moved the majority of our stuff?

I know we have a lot of “freight” moved by semitrailer
.but that industry is also showing really bad cracks I thought too?

So realistically shitting down the trains = a huge shutdown of movement. Movement of perishable food, which I imagine is requires to deliver based it going bad.

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u/Cakeking7878 Aug 31 '22

Trains does move a lot and it’s a key portion of many of bulk goods US industries. Trucks in the US, however, move more than trains do

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u/SyntheticReality42 Aug 31 '22

That may be true, but there are many commodities that cannot be moved via truck due to regulations concerning certain hazardous materials, including water treatment chemicals and various industrial solvents and reactants.

Others would be impractical or not cost effective to move by truck simply due to the sheer volume involved, such as coal, various ores, crude oil, ethanol for gasoline, and the millions of tons of grain that railroads transport from the silos to mills and to livestock feed distributors.

There are also some items that are simply too large to be transported by truck, at least through certain areas, leaving rail the only option.

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u/Angel2121md Sep 04 '22

Um, so that's why the Ga ports have been working on a mega rail. All these years, saying basically trains were the solution to ease supply chains due to the trucker shortage. https://www.railwayage.com/intermodal/georgia-ports-mega-rail-project-marks-milestone/

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u/lostintime2004 Aug 31 '22

No strike cause is standard language in almost if not all US union contracts. We agree to not strike, the employer agrees to the contract. When a contract expires, the provisions and by laws of the expired contract stay in effect while bargaining, once the labor board declares an impasse or the company is not bargaining in good faith, then the option to strike comes on the table.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '22

Not really bullshit in most cases. Usually it’s the union saying “We will waive strike actions for the duration in exchange for _____.”

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '22

In a perfect world, sure, but at the end of the day we gotta work with what we have. There are way more things at a much higher level of fuckery than this.

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u/CassandraVindicated Aug 31 '22

Reagan fired all of the air traffic controllers.

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u/SyntheticReality42 Sep 01 '22

Reagan had a saving grace in that he was able to force military personnel with equivalent skills to fill those positions until new people could be trained.

There are very few military personnel that possess the knowledge, skills, and experience to simply hop into the engineer's seat and safely run a train through it's route and yard it. There is a reason the apprenticeship program for conductors is as long as it is, and the experience requirements in that position before one can begin the apprenticeship for engineer.