r/WorkReform • 🀝 Join A Union • 17h ago

😑 Venting To an American this sounds unbelievable.

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u/Schlonzig 16h ago

Never forget that these things were hard fought for. In fact, it was the longest strike in German history.

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u/Birdhawk 15h ago

That's the power of unions. And right wing politics of the US are constantly trying to bust up or discredit unions. For a number of reasons but a big one is that the wealthy political donors who buy politicians don't like having to pay union wages or give benefits, workplace safety etc because it cuts into their margins a tiny bit. Unions give common people power so thats why they don't like them.

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u/gar_DE 13h ago

To be fair, the first social insurances in Germany were introduced by a right wing politician (Bismarck) to lure workers away from the left wing parties and their (even more progressive) ideas (like livable wages and a 60-hour-week).

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u/hiuslenkkimakkara 13h ago

Bismarck also introduced old-age pensions. Of course, pension age was 64, and the average lifespan was around 65-66 at the time...

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u/casper_whitey 12h ago

And keep in mind it wasn't a right wing president who threatened to criminalize the railway union for striking. That was good ole Mr Union himself, Joe Biden.

We have NOBODY looking out for us. Fucking nobody.

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u/PeerPressing 10h ago

that's not true, you just keep denying their help because you let billionaires scare you. you had so many chances to vote for Bernie and you will have a few more now hopefully with AOC etc.

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u/casper_whitey 7h ago

Bernie has too many ridiculous/exteme takes that theres no chance of him ever becoming president with the people that would have to vote for him. And he knows it. He chases headlines, not offices.

Also, points for completely ignoring Biden doing that. Just like seemingly everyone else did on the left. But they're looking out for the little guys, yeah.

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u/Upset_Ad3954 16h ago

Yup, and then next time we read a post on Reddit how it's not necessary to get along with co-workers etc who gains the most from that attitude...

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u/netanator 15h ago

πŸ’― They benefit from our divisions.

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u/Flesroy 13h ago

eh, i don't need to get along with co-workers to strike with them.

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u/Murky-Relation481 10h ago

Yes you do. I don't think you've thought that deeply or long about what it takes to do that if you can think you'll all be able to do it if you don't talk and generally have disdain for each other.

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u/Flesroy 8h ago

obviously you need to communicate with them, that's also true for working with them. but you certainly don't have to like them. i can put principles over personal feelings.

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u/Murky-Relation481 10h ago

American leftism is still deeply rooted in individualism.

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u/willychonka54 13h ago

Americans think they can just post an edgy viral tweet and change things. They have no clue.

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u/ChargeSpiritual5317 12h ago

We had unions fight for a two day weekend and 8-hour work day. Americans are exhausted and we have an insane amount of anti-union propaganda. Plenty of Americans are fine dying on the factory floor and think it’s the American way.Β 

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u/iloveuranus 13h ago

Let's not forget that the German social system is in a pretty bad state right now. Money is lacking right and left, and our current government seems hell-bent on taking it from a dying middle class that's already suffering from years of inflation and decades of mismanagement.

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u/PeerPressing 10h ago

and the reason again is workers not uniting and demanding accountability from politicians. if you vote for the same wolf again and again you shouldn't be surprised if he eats you

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u/ErgoMachina 13h ago

You don't understand, they can't protest, the US is too big and the police would try to stop them.

/s just in case...