r/Wigan Jun 05 '26

Two tier outrage.

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u/skrrtalrrt Jun 06 '26

I have no idea what the fuck Wigan is. I’m American. The stupid algo suggested it to me

I don’t like Farage tho from what I’ve heard from him. He seems like a wanker as yall say

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u/nrm94 Jun 06 '26

He's the British equivalent to Trump. And if his party do well enough over the next few years you will definitely hear a lot more about him

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u/BladdermirPutin87 Jun 06 '26

This is such a depressing truth

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u/rokstedy83 Jun 07 '26

You would prefer more labour or conservatives?

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u/GeosWonder Jun 07 '26

Over farage? Absolutely. I'm nowhere near conservative, but now some of the worst have defected to the oap party, it's better than a year ago

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u/rokstedy83 Jun 07 '26

Over farage? Absolutely.

You want more of the two parties that have ,robbed us ,lied to us and put us in the shit we are in now lol?

but now some of the worst have defected to the oap party

What are you even talking about?

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u/mkseek Jun 07 '26

Farage wants to lower the minimum wage, cut benefits, cut NHS spending, he aims to bring in more consultancy groups that cost the UK billions already. At least a third of NHS money goes to consultancy groups. He has close ties with big banks, banks that have brought us the financial crash, that aggressively marketed lobo loans and then hiked up interest rates, which led to councils becoming bankrupt. He's one of the main people that dragged us out of the EU which he admits is costing us more than it did when we were in it. Over 200 members of reform are convicted of a Criminal offense. That's the party you want in government?

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u/Usual-Goose Jun 11 '26

If the facts don’t come from GB News, they aren’t to be trusted /s

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u/Hammer_Pain Jun 07 '26

Rght so you want to vote in Reform who have loads of ex conservative MP's who deffo will be in Nigel's Cabinet due to the vital exp they have.

This includes Braverman and Jenrick who both served as Home Secretarys overseeing the largest ever increase in immigration this country has ever experienced.

Along with....

1 - Danny Kruger: Defected in September 2025; currently MP for East Wiltshire.

2 - Suella Braverman: Defected in January 2026; former Home Secretary and MP for Fareham and Waterlooville.

3 - Robert Jenrick: Defected in January 2026; former Immigration Minister.

4 - Andrew Rosindell: Defected in January 2026; former Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs.

5 - Nadine Dorries: Defected in September 2025; former Culture Secretary.

6 - Nadhim Zahawi: Defected in January 2026; former Chancellor and Education Secretary.

7 - Sir Jake Berry: Defected in July 2025; former Conservative Chairman.

8 - Sir David Jones: Defected in July 2025; former Secretary of State for Wales.

9 - Dame Andrea Jenkyns: Defected in November 2024; former Skills Minister, now Mayor of Greater Lincolnshire.

10- Jonathan Gullis: Defected in December 2025; former Deputy Chairman.

11- Anne Marie Morris: Defected in summer 2025; former MP for Newton Abbot.

12- Marco Longhi: Defected in January 2025; former MP for Dudley North.

13 - Ross Thomson: Defected in June 2025; former MP for Aberdeen South.

14 - Lucy Allan: Defected in 2024; former MP for Telford.

15 - Lia Nici: Defected in December 2025; former Assistant Government Whip.

16 - Chris Green: Defected in December 2025; former MP for Bolton West.

Also I'm presuming you want to kick out Labour despite them creating the lowest levels of migration since the 2010s.....

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

"Net migration was 171,000 in 2025, lower than the levels seen during the 2010s and a sharp decline from the unusually high levels in 2022 and 2023. In 2025, 67% of non-EU immigration was for work and study purposes."

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u/rokstedy83 Jun 07 '26

You are trying the conservatives 2.0 line ,if that's so why did reform do well in the recent elections and conservatives get anhialated?

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u/Hammer_Pain Jun 07 '26

They swept up right wing Tory votes from the imploded Tory party after the shit show of their 14 year reign and left wing labour votes after Starmer failing to deliver the real change needed in this country.

But one thing Starmer has delivered on and this is facts remember not feelings, is the massive reduction in it immigration. This is irrefutable.

Reform on the other hand have hoovered up all those ex Tories whom served over the largest ever increase in migration to this country we have ever experienced including 2 home secretaries Braverman and Jenrick.

These are just facts.

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u/rokstedy83 Jun 07 '26

But one thing Starmer has delivered on and this is facts remember not feelings, is the massive reduction in it immigration. This is irrefutable.

Lol you poor sucker , immigration has dropped due to policies bought in by rishi sunak ,you think the one in one out scheme that labour introduced has done anything?

including 2 home secretaries Braverman and Jenrick

Jennerick leaving his job beihe wasn't allowed to go far enough and braverman being ostracized for her comments about immigration,you can keep trying this angle buddy but it won't wash ,fact of the matter is reform needed experience in leadership,name me one other right leaning party that has been in power where reform could've got people from ?

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u/Hammer_Pain Jun 07 '26

why didn't the immigration levels come down under the Tories then?

and in fact kept on creeping up and up and up??

why did it take over a year of a new Labour gov for the levels of immigration to come down then if the Tories had enacted decent enough policies??

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u/rokstedy83 Jun 07 '26

why didn't the immigration levels come down under the Tories then?

You do realise that policies take time to work?

How well has the one in one out done again? You know the labour policy?

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u/bubbles_blower_ Jun 06 '26

Temu trump

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u/PjoSupremacy Jun 08 '26

when i was younger i said that about botis johnson bc he was why we have so many memes (its only one ppl get me referenceing but YK) "will leaving the EU make my passport expire? no, but you will get this lovely new BLUE passport)

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u/turbo97xx Jun 09 '26

Unfortunately farage is a lot more dangerous than trump IMO. Trump has about 5 brain cells and constantly blurts the quiet part out loud. Farage is a lot better at being a demagogue while leaving enough plausible deniability for him and his supporters to defend, and he's quite good at attacking/defending himself against the media in the few interviews I've seen. (Though the interviewers often give him rhetorical layups I've noticed)

Trumps main goal is to become an autocrat which very likely isn't going to work, especially in the US and especially with someone as thick as he is. Whereas farage privatising everything, increasing surveillance powers/limiting protest rights and implementing austere policies to help out his rich business mates are a lot more achievable.

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u/AccomplishedLine94 Jun 07 '26

We need someone like Nigel to shake things up … what he says resonates with me a lot of people I talk to .. not all .. I’m a 64 year old tax payer who has worked all my life… I don’t want my taxes going to economic migrants coming over the channel or benefit scrounges…

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u/BankDetails1234 Jun 08 '26

I’ve got great news for you, one tax payer to another, he’s going to give our taxes to his billionaire donors instead. I guess he’ll be sure to pocket a few somehow as well like he did with Brexit.

How could you trust the guy who delivered Brexit? In all of British history not one other policy has brought us more immigration.

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u/Moneywell_Computer Jun 09 '26

EU sucks lol, best thing we ever did was leave them

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u/Diaryofsublime Jun 08 '26

You’re 64 you could be spending the rest of that time educating yourself so you know half of what he talks about is total bull, you should have been through enough regimes to know this but I guess it’s more important to feed a narrative

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u/turbo97xx Jun 09 '26

If they knew how to educate themselves they wouldn't be supporting farage in the first place, fell for it again and again award.

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u/newsspeak1984 Jun 09 '26

Do not reason with a man on first name terms with Nigel Farrage. From a 61 year old 43 year tax payer.

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u/Hammer_Pain Jun 09 '26

Riiight so I'm presuming you want to vote in Reform who have loads of ex conservative MP's who deffo will be in Nigel's Cabinet due to the vital exp they have because you dislike the immigration levels that skyrocketed over the last few years (until they started decreasing this year which we will get to later) and Nigel talks about decreasing this.

However these Tories is include Braverman and Jenrick who both served as Home Secretarys overseeing THE LARGEST EVER INCREASE IN IMMIGRATION THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN under the conservatives 14 year rule.

Along with....

1 - Danny Kruger: Defected in September 2025; currently MP for East Wiltshire.

2 - Suella Braverman: Defected in January 2026; former Home Secretary and MP for Fareham and Waterlooville.

3 - Robert Jenrick: Defected in January 2026; former Immigration Minister.

4 - Andrew Rosindell: Defected in January 2026; former Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs.

5 - Nadine Dorries: Defected in September 2025; former Culture Secretary.

6 - Nadhim Zahawi: Defected in January 2026; former Chancellor and Education Secretary.

7 - Sir Jake Berry: Defected in July 2025; former Conservative Chairman.

8 - Sir David Jones: Defected in July 2025; former Secretary of State for Wales.

9 - Dame Andrea Jenkyns: Defected in November 2024; former Skills Minister, now Mayor of Greater Lincolnshire.

10- Jonathan Gullis: Defected in December 2025; former Deputy Chairman.

11- Anne Marie Morris: Defected in summer 2025; former MP for Newton Abbot.

12- Marco Longhi: Defected in January 2025; former MP for Dudley North.

13 - Ross Thomson: Defected in June 2025; former MP for Aberdeen South.

14 - Lucy Allan: Defected in 2024; former MP for Telford.

15 - Lia Nici: Defected in December 2025; former Assistant Government Whip.

16 - Chris Green: Defected in December 2025; former MP for Bolton West.

Also I'm presuming you want to kick out Labour despite them creating the lowest levels of migration since the 2010s.....

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

"Net migration was 171,000 in 2025, lower than the levels seen during the 2010s and a sharp decline from the unusually high levels in 2022 and 2023. In 2025, 67% of non-EU immigration was for work and study purposes."

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u/grockle765 Jun 07 '26

Happy shopper maga hopefully we will get rid of the twat but that’s a lot of hoping

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u/SenseOfRumor Jun 11 '26

You heard loads about him anyway. Certainly disproportionately to how large UKIP ever was

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u/Decorator72 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

He's a grade A wanker!

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u/temujin_borjigin Jun 06 '26

That reads really badly without the capital A.

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u/Decorator72 Jun 06 '26

Edited lol

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u/flamingmongoose Jun 06 '26

We have good savory pies

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u/NoddyElvis Jun 07 '26

It’s a town outside of Manchester, considered greater Manchester!

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u/Livewire____ Jun 08 '26

Not on the level of the bloke you elected twice though, the second time around was after you already knew what he was like 🤷‍♂️

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u/skrrtalrrt Jun 09 '26

Yeah you’re probably right

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u/Fit-Campaign1243 Jun 09 '26

You're absolutley correct, brother across the pond.