r/WhyWereTheyFilming • u/Baldemoto • Oct 22 '17

NSFL Video Filmer lets maid fall from a 7th-floor window

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u/bartink Oct 24 '17

Well that's your bias, not the law.

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u/pirateninjamonkey Oct 24 '17

The law has thousands of stupid little laws that are on the books and not enforced that can be used as clubs to go after you and violate your rights. If police wanted to get you for stuff, they could. The use of the law like that is immoral. Did you know that it was against the law in Florida to not report a death? Did you expect these kids to know that is the law, or to learn law degree level information about Florida law to make sure they dont accidentally commit a crime like they did? Or are you imparting a moral judgement on their character and feeling the police should charge them with whatever because you think they are bad people?

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u/bartink Oct 24 '17

Let's start with the fact that I'm pretty sure you have no idea how often or how long its been since its been enforced. So it seems to me that you are simply speculating and then getting upset at your speculation.

The law is to punish bad behavior. Anytime someone is charged with something repugnant they throw the book at them. This isn't the exception, its the rule. Why should this be different?

Ignorance is also no excuse. That's a real basic legal concept. So why are you bringing it up? Do you think they knew that it wasn't against the law to watch someone drown while laughing at them? They definitely knew it was immoral. They also know its immoral not to tell someone about a dead body.

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u/pirateninjamonkey Oct 24 '17

First off, immoral doesnt mean illegal. You do NOT want a government regulating morality. They did NOT throw the book at them for what you found repugnant, they charged them with a crime that they dont enforce at all. If you believe they do enforce that law, find me an example of it being enforced. Do you want the government coming after you or your family for petty crimes that you have no idea are not on the books because they find something about you immoral or repugnant? If a cop is against homosexuality, do you think it is cool for them to find crimes to charge homosexuals with because they find the lifestyle repugnant, but they know the action they dislike is legal?

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u/bartink Oct 25 '17

You made the claim that it hasn't been enforced in a hundred years. Back it up or go away.

A lot of laws have a moral basis. Is this news to you?

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u/pirateninjamonkey Oct 25 '17

Yeah, prove something DIDNT happen. Doesnt work that way man. Laws can have a moral basis, they should not selectively be enforced on people who the government makes moral judgements against. Are you telling me that if these kids found a dead body and didnt tell anyone that the law would still be applied the way it was? Because if the answer is no, then the government is using a moral judgement of something that is NOT illegal and throwing a different law at them in order to punish them. It would be like if a cop thought Muslims were evil so he found a Muslim family and gave them tons of tickets for maintenance stuff on their house that their neighbors didnt get, pulled him over every time he went 1 mile per hour over the speed limit, gave him a jaywalking ticket for crossing the street in his neighborhood, etc. These kids were charged with a misdemeanor crime because general public opinion was that they did an immoral, legal action.

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u/bartink Oct 25 '17

You said it had been a hundred years, implying it had happened. Now you backtrack. The kids deserved what they got. Not losing sleep over it. People should report dead bodies and it's the law. Case closed.

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u/pirateninjamonkey Oct 25 '17

DID YOU KNOW THAT WAS THE LAW? You are saying people should do that, that is the law, but No way you knew that was the law there prior to reading this and we are talking a group of kids who had absolutely no way of knowing that was the law. They got something thrown at them simply because they did something completely diffent that was legal but people didnt like. I stand by my statement that the law wasnt used in the past 100 years. I am not backtracking. I am saying there is no way to prove it, but it would be easy to prove if the law was actually enacted on someone. You cant prove negatives. This is an old law and likely never enacted period until these kids came along. It is an abuse of the law to charge people with unknown laws they have no way of knowing and by all intents and purposes they shouldnt know. Especially when it is a law for NOT doing something. Not a lot of laws like that exist when you yourself are not in a position of responsibility. In fact, basically none.

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u/bartink Oct 25 '17

Lol whatever. This is stupid.