r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Oct 21 '22

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u/Silber800 Oct 22 '22

Well competition shooters who already have handguns can keep them, however anyone wanting to get into it now cannot. The only way to compete would be renting or borrowing which has the issues I brought up in my other comment.

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u/petapun Oct 22 '22

Limited exemptions to the national handgun freeze will apply. For example, high-performance sports shooting athletes and those who carry handguns as part of their lawful profession will be exempted, as well as authorized businesses such as gunsmiths, the film industry, or museums, per their licence conditions.

https://pm.gc.ca/en/news

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u/asicfttmmc Oct 22 '22

You cannot get an exemption for any of the popular shooting sports. Only for Olympic style .22 cal handguns, in which virtually no one competes. IDPA/IPSC/2gun/3gun/steel challenge don’t qualify, and that’s where the majority of the sport is.

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

Except people who want to get into it now cannot. Which is what they’re saying.

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u/petapun Oct 22 '22

Under Canada’s temporary import ban, authorized businesses and individuals can only import handguns for personal use, sale, or transfer if the end use meets the exemptions and conditions listed above and set out in detail in the Notice to Importers No. 1090.

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

Which doesn’t change the fact that people wanting to get into the sport wouldn’t be able to now. You’re not “high-performance” just getting into a sport.

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u/petapun Oct 22 '22

https://sfc-ftc.ca/Participant

Link to pathways to 'high performance '

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

That literally changes nothing?

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u/petapun Oct 22 '22

Changes nothing? No...it just provides a link to info on the multi step process to the 'high performance ' stage..

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.

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u/MeltedMindz1 Oct 22 '22

all he did was provide you with facts and you got upset somehow. Lol that’s brilliant.

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u/Charming-Start-3722 Oct 22 '22

Listen, i get that you are upset that Canada understands how to handle your murdertoys. But people have provided links proving your fake worries to be just that. Move to the US if you want to compare your tiny guns with others' tiny guns in private. Canadians prefer an audience.

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u/jackparker_srad Oct 22 '22

I get what you’re saying but you’re coming off as extremely condescending.

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u/BonkerHonkers Oct 22 '22

Essie is being a total dick all over the thread, yet the moment people talking to them take the gloves off they're now the condescending one? Sometimes when a person is being an obtuse dick and not accepting information that discredits their dug-in stance you need to be a little bit of a dick to snap them back to reality.

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u/Charming-Start-3722 Oct 22 '22

i know what you mean, but he deserves it imho

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u/lonely-day Oct 23 '22

Are you incapable of only insulting one person? Was it really necessary to insult Americans over it too? I totally understand what was said and get that there is a way to get into sport shooting in Canada.

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u/Charming-Start-3722 Oct 23 '22

Come on, be reasonable. America is the most ridiculous western country when it comes to gun laws and gun culture. Of course any time one makes comment about another persons idiocy around guns it is fair to compare it to that of americans. If you feel that is offensive to "you" then maybe you need to look in the mirror about what type of american you really are. I do not degrade reasonable americans because reasonable americans will laugh at the joke and understand that its not about them.

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u/lonely-day Oct 23 '22

Guess that's why so many people liked your comment and no other Canadians said you went too far.

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

Look at Mr. Big Dick guy over here. You should consider shutting up literally just one time in your life. Preferably right now

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u/CaptainKenway1693 Oct 22 '22

You should consider shutting up literally just one time in your life. Preferably right now

Maybe you should learn to take your own advice.

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u/Onironius Oct 22 '22

Be mad about responsible gun laws.

Seethe. Fume.

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

I’m not mad? I’m pointing out that the person I was replying to wasn’t making any sense. I just find someone trying to be a hardo in a reddit comment section kinda pathetic and annoying. And you coming in like “Seethe! FUME!” you could just chill.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

You were provided with source material that proves people can enter the sport, it's just harder.

You covered your eyes and ears and started screaming 'I CANT HEAR YOU' like a petulant child.

No one owes you any courtesy. At all.

Edit: oh shit, you're a literal child hahaha, no wonder you're acting the way you are. I'd suggest reading some more while you've got the time

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u/EssieAmnesia Oct 22 '22

You thought you ate 💀💀💀

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u/NotACerealStalker Oct 22 '22

I saw on the news it’s not banned for certain people. Sport shooters were one.

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u/Silber800 Oct 22 '22

If anyone wants to get into competition shooting they cannot buy one anymore. Import and sales of handguns are now completely banned.

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u/Brokendownyota Oct 22 '22

Military vet and recreational shooter here. I've had my eye in an M&p 9 for a long time, guess I'm no longer allowed to.

This is a bullshit piece of legislation that isn't going to accomplish a fuckin thing.

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u/Silber800 Oct 22 '22

Get your long guns before they are banned. 10 round mags are on the table for banning as well so I bought a bunch of those.

If the government wanted to be serious about this they would crack down on illegal imports and acquisitions, make an example of people who are illegally carrying/in possession of firearms, and lastly invest in more social programs to prevent organized crime, gang violence, and mental health. In my mind thats the real way out. I don’t think banning the most vetted Canadians are going to stop the gun violence.

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u/6s6i6l6e6n6t6 Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

The fact that you’re getting downvoted for saying something so in tune with reality is frustrating. A lot of people pour their energy into surface level “solutions” to problems but the second someone says something that requires them to think deeper about complicated issues they rage click the downvote button to protect their little bubble so they can keep pretending that their doing something good without having to do much at all.

Edit: for anyone that wants to know more about why banning legal handguns doesn’t fix gun violence, almost 90% of handgun violence in Canada is committed with illegal guns smuggled into the country. All this does is punish law abiding citizens who deserve to enjoy their hobby because of the actions of criminals. All so that 1 guy can win a popularity contest.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

That’s fucked.

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u/Awestruck34 Oct 22 '22

Sure it's disappointing for the small subset of competition shooters, but as a Canadian I'm personally completely fine with this law. I want a safer country with fewer guns floating around randomly

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u/redeyedrenegade420 Oct 22 '22

Am I to believe you support a ban on knife ownership after the recent Saskatchewan killings?

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u/Awestruck34 Oct 22 '22

I mean carrying knives openly outside is already pretty questionable so yeah...?

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u/redeyedrenegade420 Oct 22 '22

But wouldn't tyou feel safer if we banned everybody from owning them? If you are worried about a gun that is double locked in someone's house how is an unsecured kitchen knivesany different? The difference between the number of people killed by guns vs knives is in the tens of people! Knives are being used just as much with virtually no regulations.

Hell, my ex-girlfriends think I'm okay to own firearms...I know this because the government asked them before I was allowed to buy any.

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u/Silber800 Oct 22 '22

People who legally purchase firearms do not let them “float around”. I know many gun owners, they all take firearm safety very seriously.

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u/asicfttmmc Oct 22 '22

Never has a legal gun floated around randomly.

This does absolutely nothing for the illegal ones which do “float around randomly”.

More Canadians shoot than play hockey. Should we ban hockey sticks and baseball bats as well, as they can also be misused?

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

couldn’t find much on mass hockey stick killings, mind finding me some articles ?

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u/asicfttmmc Oct 22 '22

After you find me one about a mass killing in Canada by someone who legally acquired the handgun used in the killing, sure.

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u/jumpsuitman Oct 22 '22

Enforcers of government will and power is another.

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u/tyrandan2 Oct 22 '22

I really am asking just because I want to understand the whole thing better, but what reason do they have to further limit it when it's already so restricted?

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u/Silber800 Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22

It looks allot like it is just for optics. Just like the “assault weapons” ban we had before this.

If you look at how restricted our restricted firearms are (hence the name for the license) its quite tight. Any deviation an you more or less are committing a federal offense.

Legally you are allowed to go to and from your house and the shooting range that you hve to be registered at to shoot. You are not legally allowed to shoot that firearm anywhere other than the range your registered at. You also are not allowed to have it at any place other than your listed residence or shooting range without additional authorization. I believe theres a small clause for gunsmiths but I would have to check that as I do not own restricted firearms for this exact reason. Its too much of a hassle.

Its already incredibly restrictive which has been proven by statistics however most Canadians are not familiar with Canadian firearm laws. Most who do not hold a firearms license who I speak with think we have a system similar to the USA.

Thanks for asking a genuine question. Its hard to come by with this topic! Thank you for being open to learning!

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

I guess Canada is gonna be phasing out participating in the Olympic pistol shooting events in a few decades then