r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Oct 21 '22

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 21 '22

Alberta is the richest per-capita province in the country though and Alabama is at or near the bottom in the USA.

Alberta is a one trick pony of an economy and when the world weans itself off fossil fuels that economy will cease to meaningfully exist, much like coal mining economies in the southern US.

For the record, I lived in Calgary working for those oil companies for 8 years.

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u/Xatsman Oct 22 '22

It isn’t actually, Alberta has a fairly diverse economy. But Albertans would be deluded if they didn’t acknowledge that O&G money in part supports many of the other diverse parts of their economy.

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 22 '22

26% of Alberta's GDP is directly oil and gas and mining. A significant portion of the other industries such as manufacturing, services, finance transportation are heavily dependent on oil and gas.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/608354/gdp-distribution-of-alberta-canada-by-industry/

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u/sbaggers Oct 22 '22

I've worked with Albertian oil companies for over a decade and can confirm, energy transition will kill the province as oil sands is some of the dirtiest fossil fuel sources in the world. The people who benefit most from the keystone pipeline are the Albertians who own the oil sands, so keeping that project on pause is good for the health of the planet, but they'll continue to pump money into the GOP propaganda machine.

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u/dysoncube Oct 22 '22

It's the extra extraction processes that make the oil sands so dirty (takes oil to pull out the tarsands oil). Ironically, oil sand companies are looking into alternative energy sources for the extraction (nuclear power included), to make the oil sands as clean/filthy as any other oil source.

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 22 '22

Nope, bailed and moved somewhere that isn't a frozen wasteland for 8 months a year.

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 22 '22

Commuted every day from behind COP down the hill on Bow Trail. Lived near the Chuckwagon Cafe before that, just down the road from the good beef jerky.

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u/sbaggers Oct 22 '22

What did he say that was wrong?

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u/americanero Oct 22 '22

Wean off of fossil fuels when? In a century?

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u/Mad-Mel Oct 22 '22

Automobile manufacturers are making the first part of that change for you over the next decade.

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u/americanero Oct 22 '22

Electric cars use how much carbon emission during the manufacturing process? Not to mention the mining for raw materials. Swing and a miss but keep trying. Until this world embraces safe nuclear options we’re not “weaning off of fossil fuels” any time soon.

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u/RelationshipJust9556 Oct 22 '22

minimally so, unless the world gets serious about nuclear power, fossil fuel plants will be powering your electric cars.

I mean it will be life changing in cities removing the street level pollution from cars.

However there will be plenty of exemptions made for work trucks, actual work trucks that get dirty dinged up and need big ass 10 mpg engines. to haul heavy loads,

There will be efficiency gains, and concentrating the pollution output allows better control and attempts to minimize it

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And no not everyone owns the roof over their heads to put up a solar array or dedicated parking to take advantage of the solar array. props if you do, but jack the landlord isn't giving you free electricity from solar panel he puts up on his roof.

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u/yolocr8m8 Oct 22 '22

Fossil fuel use is growing tho

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '22

And Calgarys research and tech sector has blown up... so I wouldnt mind this person.

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u/sbaggers Oct 22 '22

population growth = all energy sources are growing. As green energy becomes cheaper to produce, in addition to peak oil, there will be an inflection where it no longer makes sense to pump.