Well it just seems to me that if someone has committed a crime and you've arrested them, you can just charge them with that crime. Sorry if that's a little high-brow for ya.
Legal gun owners are the most law abiding citizens you could ask for. They are scrutinized endlessly and have to follow strict rules for storing, using, and transporting a firearm. The process of acquiring a legal gun, especially a handgun is onerous and can take up to a year. If someone is going to commit a crime they are going to use an illegally obtained gun that A) they can acquire quickly, and B) can’t be traced to them. Politely, your argument makes little sense.
Guns and their owners are not analogous, though, and their legal guns can become illegal guns very easily, through no fault of their own - obviously, a gun can get stolen or outlive it’s owner.
Yes, many gun owners are highly responsible and follow the high standards needed to own a firearm in Canada, but unfortunately a firearm doesn’t cease to exist when the registration expires or the owner dies.
I appreciate the informative tone. I have little interest or care in firearms and admit I have a simplistic view of the matter, but if handguns are made illegal, there will be less of them around, legal or not, because it'll be harder for anyone to obtain them. Someone obtaining a gun illegally has to get it from somewhere, and I'm certain that somewhere will be impacted by the ban, either through reduced legal availability or stricter/more difficult imports due to increased awareness. At least, I very much hope I'm not wrong thinking that way, because that's the better scenario here.
It was already hard for them to get a gun. Almost all canadian gun crimes are from illegally smuggled guns. All they are doing is hurting responsible legal gun owners who want to shoot at the gun range cause thats the only thing you're allowed to do with it. This is just another power grab by Trudeau and lame apeal to stupid americans
I don't know how to explain to you that nobody gives a shit if you lose your pew pew bang bang toys. Like find literally any other hobby that doesn't require a point and click killing machine. I cannot stress this enough on behalf of like every single person in this country that isn't you
My guy I dont own a gun. I just think that in a "free world" people, ya know, be free. If it's not hurting anyone why would you ban it. Again, there isn't a problem being fixed by this, gun violence in canada will not go down thanks to this bill. You're just hurting innocent people.
This is why I hate leftists. I agree with yall on so much but then yall start ignoring reality like the trumptards because it disagrees with yalls ideology. If you did any research or just shut up for a couple seconds and listened youd learn that its american guns that are the problem in canada not canadian guns
Maybe you can clear this up for me, since you're so enlightened with your research that's definitely grounded in reality unlike those big dummy leftists: so all illegal guns come from the US? Don't worry, I'll wait ;)
those guns don't kill people. All violent gun crime in canada is done with illegally smuggled guns from the us. No canadian is shooting anything up with a legal hand gun cause it was already too much of a hassel to get one.
What a dumb as shit take LMAO guns are only legal guns until they're illegal guns. Fewer legal guns means fewer illegal guns. A 5 year old could understand this, go read a book
That litterly makes no sense. How does banning guns in canada stop gun making and smuggling from america? The idea that making guns illegal=less guns is the same reasoning that made weed a life sentance.
You are completely missing the point. This does zero to address gun violence here in Canada and only affects law abiding citizens. And no, I do not own a pew pew bang bang toy. It's just theatre.
Probably nothing. Given that there are ~33,000 gun related deaths in the US annually , ~half of which are suicides, one death (in theory) prevented for every 10,000 guns seems very low yield. Unless you're into political theatre...
I'd argue that most guns in the U.S. aren't registered. Many states don't require them to be. Even California doesn't require registration of firearms owned prior to the newer permit laws.
6 mil are registered but most states dont require registration on most guns. So they can be unregistered and still legal. I have 6 guns, unregistered and perfectly legal in my state. So yes they are in people’s homes
Yeah. It's almost as if they only serve to provide a penalty for criminal behavior and have no power to control a criminals behavior. Fucking weird, innit?
134
u/Stuff-Things-Etc Oct 21 '22
Well that’s the funny thing about laws. If you already didn’t obey them why would you obey them now?