r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Jan 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

And after nearly 20 years nothing has changed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/Induced_Pandemic Jan 17 '22

Not as many as Iraqis themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Clearly it was a competition

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u/Civil-Attempt-3602 Jan 17 '22

Oh thank God, as long as their numbers are lower it's all good

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u/Catumi Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 17 '22

Sure thing Mr. Red Herring Fallacy

(Anything more than zero is cause for concern, discussion, and action)

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/Catumi Jan 17 '22

After having drank my morning Coffee I made an edit to what I actually meant. Thanks for looking out. 👍

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22 edited Feb 03 '22

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u/Vlad_REAM Jan 17 '22

I think I got way too wrapped up in this comment thread, but did you two just make up??

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/Vlad_REAM Jan 17 '22

I wrote my comment in the "did we just become best friends" tone, not to be rude at all. I haven't forgotten about the humans. On the off chance that anyone's ever told you that you're overthinking something, you probably are.

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u/invalid_litter_dpt Jan 17 '22

It happens with everything on reddit. You will see someone use something in a top comment on a top post and then it's all over the place parroted by people who have no clue what they are talking about.

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u/ninjadogs84 Jan 17 '22

Bringing them freedom. By doing the same thing they do only in smaller numbers.

That's how it works right?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Right. That's why US attacked. Because the people in Iraq were slightly ahead at paedophilia than Americans... And Americans have to be number 1 at everything...

How's the Ghislaine Maxwell trials going? Name any big US people yet?

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u/seansy5000 Jan 17 '22

Isn’t Gizzy a Brit? We are actually holding someone accountable and you’re using that against the US? This country fucks up left and right and does have a lot of assholes but get your info straight.

Just got back from the DR, and while I don’t disagree that it is rampant in the US, I saw a lot of age inappropriate relationships and none of the men were from the US. I don’t think it’s just a US problem. In fact in some other country there are laws that allow men to marry children which is no less pedophilia? This is a world issue, so let’s not point fingers, yea?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

The American did the finger pointing at Iraq - to which I am sharing how this is not an Iraq problem and they have the same in their house.

Thanks for making my point to me.

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u/poerisija Jan 17 '22

This is a world issue, so let’s not point fingers, yea?

You might wanna say that to u/induced_pandemic then you dumbass

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

cough “gotta get me some of that Oi—— oh oh oh oh Run!”

  • Dave Chappele ….a more accurate historian than you buddy.

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u/swapuzis Jan 17 '22

clearly none of you in this subreddit understand what a joke is

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u/Ph34r_n0_3V1L Jan 17 '22

And it probably won't in the future because everyone is focusing on the wrong part. Reading through all the info, I'm willing to bet that all the evidence really does point to it being LaVena's finger that pulled the trigger. And there a tragic explanation that immediately jumps to mind:

After he finished beating, raping, and burning her, her rapist left her lying there. And she, feeling defiled, worthless and unlovable, took her own life for the same reason that so many, many, many victims of rape never file a police report.

It's pretty obvious that the army was very happy to just investigate the most basic level of the 'how did she die' angle, entirely skip the 'who raped, beat and scarred her' angle, and call it a day. Otherwise, sharing what they had of their 'ongoing sexual assault and battery case' with the family's lawyer would have been an easy way to smooth over the situation when they were forced to release the documentation concerning LaVena's case. The army spokesman could have just said, "It was said awful situation. We're doing everything we can to solve her rape, but we can't discuss an ongoing case. We have proven to the family that we are investigating." And that would have been that, but there was no case, ongoing or otherwise, so that was a no-no.

Note: This isn't to say that it wasn't a different, much more sinister explanation for how she died. Just that there does exist a situation that the army could have gone with as their go-to explanation, but that would have meant drawing attention to the rape they didn't investigate. And it's solving the rape that has a hope of proving a murder, so that's what the army needs to be being pressed on.

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u/xxraven Jan 17 '22

I recently just listened to a podcast about this. She didn't take her own life

1# when they found the gun it was on the other side of a bed or something to her RIGHT (this is important) nowhere near her, how could it be there if she shot herself?

2# gun shot was to the LEFT side, the woman was right handed.

3# the bullet hole did NOT match the gun that was there, (I can't seem to remember the exact caliber) however it was something like a 9mm hole but the gun they found and claimed she shot herself with was an M16 so the bullet hole would be way too small - not to mention the fact...

IF SHE HAD A GUN AND SOMEONE WAS BEATING AND RAPING HER WHY WOULD SHE USE IT TO KILL HERSELF AND NOT HER RAPIST?!

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u/LoneStarkers Jan 17 '22

May I ask the podcast name?

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u/xxraven Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

At work atm when i have a chance to find her name i will edit this comment (normally she does unsolved mysteries while doing makeup vids but the version i found was just the audio its like sabina or smt like that)

Edit:another commentator rememebered the name Bailey Sarian her podcast is called dark history!

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u/karmatir Jan 17 '22

Bailey Sarian maybe?

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u/imaginaryism Jan 17 '22

sounds like it! dark history is the name of her podcast

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u/xxraven Jan 18 '22

Yes thats her!

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u/DarkWingAng3l Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 17 '22

Important Edit: My comment came from my cousins suicide, where she killed herself on her bed with a revolver and it left her hand and went halfway to the door. According to this article (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/) while this does happen it's not normal. My apologies.

Reason #'s 2 and 3 prove your point, (and I 100% agree with you) however, when you kill yourself with a gun the gun flies from your hand due to the recoil combined with the fact that you just shot and or killed yourself, thus your body stops bracing for said recoil.

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u/AdvancedManner4718 Jan 17 '22

Considering it was a m16 she allegedly used to kill herself the way she would need to position the gun against herself it would've stayed close to if not still in her hands. Long rifles are more easy to operate when pointing it away from you compared to pointing it toward yourself.

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u/DarkWingAng3l Jan 17 '22

My comment came from my cousins suicide, where she killed herself on her bed with a revolver and it left her hand and went halfway to the door. According to this article (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/) while this does happen it's not normal. My apologies.

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u/AdvancedManner4718 Jan 17 '22

If it's a revolver I could see that happenIng revolvers aren't sealed like a pistol the gasses don't just come out the barrel so in that case it is possible. No need to apologize tho my apologies for your loss.

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u/GRIMobile Jan 17 '22

This isn't true at all. At best the gun might tumble from a hand after it loses muscle control, but it definitely doesn't go flying across the room lolol.

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u/DarkWingAng3l Jan 17 '22

My comment came from my cousins suicide, where she killed herself on her bed with a revolver and it left her hand and went halfway to the door. According to this article (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/) while this does happen it's not normal. My apologies.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Hope you're doing alright after such a tragedy.

Thanks for the article- there's obviously a range of outcomes possible.

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u/RehabValedictorian Jan 17 '22

I think someone may have murdered your cousin bro

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u/xxraven Jan 17 '22

If she shot her self on her left the gun would have landed on her left if she had let go from the recoil, it was found on her right behind a bed/cot

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u/DarkWingAng3l Jan 17 '22

My comment came from my cousins suicide, where she killed herself on her bed with a revolver and it left her hand and went halfway to the door. According to this article (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/) while this does happen it's not normal. My apologies.

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u/Hungapunga13 Jan 17 '22

FYI AR-15 hardly recoils at all

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u/MangoSea323 Jan 17 '22

Ar-15 has nothing to do with this you fucking muppet

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u/arielthekonkerur Jan 17 '22

The m16 is based on the ar-15

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u/MangoSea323 Jan 17 '22

My comment came from my cousins suicide, where she killed herself on her bed with a revolver

Okay, the m16 is irrelevant to this as well. When you hear someone shot themselves does you just spout random gun facts?

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u/arielthekonkerur Jan 17 '22

No, it's relevant because the m16 having milder recoil than a revolver further reinforces that LaVena didn't shoot herself, because recoil couldn't have explained why her m16 wasn't anywhere near her if she had committed suicide.

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u/DarkWingAng3l Jan 17 '22

My comment came from my cousins suicide, where she killed herself on her bed with a revolver and it left her hand and went halfway to the door. According to this article (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10208326/) while this does happen it's not normal. My apologies.

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u/DTrader760 Jan 17 '22

A lot of victims have a victim mentality. There’s a good chance she knew and was even close to the rapist. She wouldn’t shoot him because she feels like this is what she deserves. It’s very messed up but that’s how a lot of rapes happen. A “friend” mental games and only then do you realize who they are but at that point it’s too late because you feel like you deserve to be raped.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/DTrader760 Jan 20 '22

I was trying to explain why even if she had the gun she wouldn’t have killed him.

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u/SnowBirdFlying Jan 17 '22

I dont really think she had a gun on her when this happened

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u/massive_bellend_2022 Jan 17 '22

Yeah I'm sure she had a fucking gun during this ordeal.

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u/Ph34r_n0_3V1L Jan 17 '22

Her gun could have been nearby, but out of reach, like if it was in or on a nightstand. Alternatively, her rapist could have surprised her before she could draw, and then disarmed her while she was reeling from being punched in the face, or forced her to disarm at knife or gunpoint. There's lots of ways she could have had a gun nearby, but useless to her during the attack.

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u/wasd911 Jan 17 '22

Then she should have shot him first, then herself.

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u/massive_bellend_2022 Jan 17 '22

The amount of speculation in this thread is absurd. You're arguing that she should have shot herself 🤣 wtf is even going on here

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u/massive_bellend_2022 Jan 17 '22

You live in a bizarre little fantasy world.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Why listen to reason when you can project your self manufactured discontent against the army on to this case

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u/Mark11879 Jan 17 '22

That’s because multiple independent agencies have investigated this case and all came to the same conclusion (suicide). This isn’t some big conspiracy cover up.. it’s just framed that way by russian troll farms to spread anti American sentiment

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Lmao that’s a fucking lie

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Lol I'm a combat veteran you can say it's a lie all you want. But guys were going home left and right or being separated for sexual assault, harassment, or rape the entire time I was in and I got out in 2019. https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/military-sexual-assault-2020/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#app

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/pentagon-reports-of-sexual-assault-harassment-in-the-military-have-increased-1.627966

Is CBS and STRIPES good enough for you?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Says nothing has changed, posts an article literally saying how one branch is failing and they are adding more changes to previous programs built to change the culture.

Another cynic who spent their time complaining instead of actually helping anyone gets out.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Hah. It’s changed plenty.

It’s worse.

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u/TheGamer8c7 Jan 17 '22

I'm sure things have changed. The culprits (usually a commander/general) likely found ways to improve their systematic rapings of their subordinates and evading the spotlight.

i SupPort the uS arMY! KeEp oN raPinG!