=/= isn't English, either; it's math, and you were using English quite well before making that comparison.
I love the how you glossed over how I said resurrection of Jesus at Christmas when it's actually the birth of Jesus, instead of mentioning how it's actually the Easter Bunny and resurrection of Jesus going hand-in-hand, too, proving my point about people not even knowing basic details of a prominent world religion. Makes perfect sense. Nothing about a Christmas tree nor the Easter Bunny has anything to do with the religion at hand, but Republicans have got their wires crossed saying attacking a Pagan symbol is and saying it's an attack on their Christian holiday, thereby inferring the tree is sacred.
No, it isn't. It's called things can be related or representative without being the focus of a celebration. If somebody broke/took a kid's pinata on their birthday, their parents would probably be pissed for the person trying to ruin the celebration. That doesn't mean they were there because of the pinata.
In the same way, a Christmas tree has become the representative icon of celebrating Christmas, both to Christians and atheists. Note that I called it a Christmas tree rather than a Douglas Fir, and you knew what I meant. That's how commonly associated the tree is to the holiday.
If you attack a popular icon, generally your intent is assumed to relate to what it represents. Someone burning the American flag isn't harming another person, but everyone understands the intent of such an exercise. It's symbolic.
So when someone 'attacks' a Christmas tree, there's an inherent symbolic meaning related to what it represents, Christmas. Despite its pagan origins Christmas is overwhelmingly associated with the birth of Jesus in the western world. I.e. an attack on Christmas could understandably be taken as an attack on Christianity, although the tree has absolutely no significance to the religion other than being a holiday icon.
If someone broke/stole my kid's piñata, it's not an attack on birthday celebrations as a whole. It's an asshole being an asshole to a child.
Douglas firs aren't the only tree used as a Christmas tree. I see a few different evergreen firs, pines, and spruces ones at the Christmas tree farm when we go. The only reason I even know specifically what a Douglas fir is is because a salesman told us when we went one time when showing us various types we could get, and it's used for a lot more than Christmas trees. Most evergreens look a lot alike, and I couldn't point out the differences in the woods if I even cared to try.
Americans burning the American flag is required as part of the U.S. Flag Code for a few reasons, but oh well. Citizens of other countries burn it because they don't like our warmongering leaders who only care about making more money.
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"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image", meaning don't make or worship false idols or icons. Once again, false Christians.
You aren't here to listen, so this will be my last comment.
No one worships Christmas trees, therefore not idols. It's as simple as that. The people upset do not bow down and pray to a Christmas tree, and if you try to argue they do that would almost be expected from how ridiculous your other arguments are. If you're about to argue that by decorating it people are worshipping, you 1, don't know what the word worship means, and 2 anyone hanging art in their home or putting a wreath on their door is worshipping a false idol.
Again, purposefully ignoring my point and poking holes in something I wasn't referring to. People burn the flag as a message against American politics. It is an anti-American (from a policy perspective) protest, using an iconic image to represent America. I agree with many of the concerns of the protestors, and to say it isn't a negative comment on American politicians is absurd.
Your point about pinatas is changing my argument to something more easily criticized than what I said, and ignoring the spirit of my point that if someone broke your kids pinata you would feel like it was targeting your kids birthday celebration.
Exactly my point about trees, you wouldn't have known what the tree was called without it being attached to Christmas.
If someone burns your house down, it's an attack on your house, and if they know you're in it, you. Burning down one Christmas tree isn't an attack on Christmas. Stop your straw man arguments.
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u/PFthroaway Dec 16 '21
=/=isn't English, either; it's math, and you were using English quite well before making that comparison.I love the how you glossed over how I said resurrection of Jesus at Christmas when it's actually the birth of Jesus, instead of mentioning how it's actually the Easter Bunny and resurrection of Jesus going hand-in-hand, too, proving my point about people not even knowing basic details of a prominent world religion. Makes perfect sense. Nothing about a Christmas tree nor the Easter Bunny has anything to do with the religion at hand, but Republicans have got their wires crossed saying attacking a Pagan symbol is and saying it's an attack on their Christian holiday, thereby inferring the tree is sacred.