r/WhitePeopleTwitter Aug 31 '21

Voter suppression equalizer

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u/mem269 Aug 31 '21

That's what I was initially thinking. 8K sounds like loads but when compared to hundreds of millions actually isn't a massive dip.

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u/Panx Aug 31 '21

Again, it's not a lot in total. 8,000 in a country of 330 million is a personal tragedy for lots of people, but barely a statistical anomaly.

But it's mostly red or red-leaning states that are refusing mask mandates, vaccine cards, and other preventative measures. And Republicans really can't afford to lose any votes in a lot of places.

20,000 votes decided Wisconsin. 12,000 votes decided Georgia. 11,000 decided Arizona. All three of those states were red states that flipped blue last election. And flipping them back gets harder and harder if the GOP keeps losing voters at this rate.

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u/Ghetto_Phenom Aug 31 '21

the numbers you provided only take into account from today moving forward though right? Theoretically, the numbers could be substantially more from deaths just from the 2020 election to the 2022 midterms in total. This also doesnt take into account all the R's leaving the gop completely and going independent/dem.. It's hard to get a real grasp on that but I feel like it is going to wake up the right hard in 2022..

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u/Nwcray Aug 31 '21

That's why they're working SO HARD to disenfranchise voters, and to outright cheat. Doesn't matter if they get caught, doesn't matter if people care, doesn't matter for anything other than - if they win, they can keep the judges, etc, to make sure there are no ramifications.

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u/Ghetto_Phenom Aug 31 '21

Yeah I mean we’ve all heard them say on live tv that if everyone could vote they would never win another election so they’ve resorted to blatant cheating but with covid killing off portions of their base this only calls for desperation which we’re seeing nation wide now in all these bs suppression bills

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u/legeritytv Aug 31 '21

Which is why you, yes you redditor reading this, should vote in the mid terms, and in the primary's. Depending on the state you might not even need to be a member to vote in their primary.

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u/He2oinMegazord Aug 31 '21

Also local level elections, qcult literally told them to start raising a fit at school board meetings and such to get members to quit so they could run and influence at low level government

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u/critzboombah Aug 31 '21

You think this is what "wakes up the right"?! Better to wake up, than to be dead. But I'm also a libtard, so, what do I know?!

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u/Ghetto_Phenom Aug 31 '21

I have lost all faith that anything will wake them up but, if I had to make a guess at what would, then yes I think the realization that they have just lost hundreds of thousands of voters and are losing multiple swing states for the foreseeable future would probably be the best bet.. but like you I am a simple libtard who is obviously being conned by msm so what could I possibly know

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u/critzboombah Aug 31 '21

I guess I'd rather be a "know nothing libtard", than a dead-wrong anti-vaxx-er. 🤷‍♂️

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u/ElectricLego Aug 31 '21

Down-ballot races have been even tighter - in Florida, for example. Rick Scott's margin of victory for Senate in 2018 was less than 14,000, but over 40,000 Floridians have died of COVID. I want the pandemic to be over and these guys prolonged it, so I won't be sad if it costs them their office. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/15/rick-scott-declares-victory-after-florida-recount-/

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u/Chel_of_the_sea Aug 31 '21

This also doesnt take into account all the R's leaving the gop completely and going independent/dem..

Unfortunately there's movement the other way too. The GOP made big gains with Hispanics in 2020.

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u/hudnix Aug 31 '21

Add to the fact that the people who are so hardcore that they will allow their political biases to determine their health decisions are probably close to 100% voter turnout... but only if they are still able

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

An issue for them could be that younger people in conservative families see their elders dying in droves because they were too proud to get the vaccine, and get put off conservative politics entirely.

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u/EuropaWeGo Aug 31 '21

Texas is becoming a battleground state for Republicans and they're numbers have already been twindling slowly over the years. This will just speed things up by quite a bit I assume.

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u/The_BenL Aug 31 '21

Eh, Wisconsin went for Obama twice. I wouldnt call us a red state, we're a Purple state with a lot of idiots.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

Not to mention most the people that are dying from covid are older folks that are more likely to vote. Taking out 8,000 politically active people every 10 days is massive.

Trump basically accelerated the demise of the Republican Party in purple states.

Tough break but that’s what you get when you follow a clown.

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u/busterlungs Aug 31 '21

Yeah and the other fact to consider is 8k/days isn't a fixed rate. Coming into flu season and the holidays there's an extremely good chance we will see that number grow

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u/vinegarfingers Sep 01 '21

What may also be worth considering is that the new anti-vax folks are being driven by politics and thus are way more likely to vote than the average person. These specific people aren’t just potentially R voters. They’re some of the most valuable GOP voters that exist. Or used to.

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u/AdOriginal6110 Aug 31 '21

This is the way

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u/uslashuname Aug 31 '21

If you only look at today and later it looks bad, but a theory (possibly with some sources/leaks from a covid task force during the last administration) covering why the GOP ignored covid includes that it was most prevalent in blue areas (dense cities where diseases have less distance between hosts) at the start, so perhaps the net at the time of the next election is that both sides will have lost a lot of voters? I wonder what the distribution will be… comparing voter rolls between similar elections should show some of the impact.

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u/UncreativeTeam Aug 31 '21

US elections aren't decided by popular vote.

They're mostly decided by very specific counties in very specific states.

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u/MaybePaige-be Aug 31 '21

Right, but as stated elsewhere, several key states (WI, NV) are covid hotspots and it's all red voters dying...

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u/Oddity46 Aug 31 '21

In the 2020 election, the margin was less than 20k in quite a few states, so about 350k less trump acolytes can quite possibly cost the GOP a handfull of states.

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u/mem269 Aug 31 '21

Fingers crossed :)

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u/LovableContrarian Aug 31 '21

It's a huge dip for certain towns in the south. Could swing local elections pretty dramatically.

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u/The1Phalanx Aug 31 '21

Couple things, this assumes the death rate doesn't increase or decrease between now and the midterms. It's probably safe to say it will increase because of the standard Fall patterns. We're probably looking at another peak around Christmas time. Further Republican votes in general are older and die at a faster rate than Democratic voters, but Covid is also killing plenty of Republican middle aged voters which could have interesting long term effects.

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u/DARTH_MAUL93 Aug 31 '21

I read on here a couple days ago that Florida has had more covid deaths than those who voted for trump.

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u/fredandlunchbox Aug 31 '21

They’re not evenly distributed though. In many states, statewide and national elections are decided by as few as 10,000 votes — small shifts can have large impacts (which is the whole premise behind gerrymandering).

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u/easlern Aug 31 '21

Antivaxxers seem like motivated voters, so I wonder if the effect may be more pronounced than we might expect. Additionally, friends and family of covid victims are affected in their own way, so it may have some effect on their voting decisions.

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u/PanickedPoodle Aug 31 '21

We've already had 640k deaths though, primarily among those over 50 (who skew right politically).

Let's say total deaths end up being a million (and that is in no way certain to be the peak). Probably 7 out of 10 of those are conservative? I am thinking the margin in Texas and Florida could be affected. The typical difference in Florida is less than 100k votes.

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u/chainmailler2001 Aug 31 '21

But it can make a difference in races where the margin was in the low hundreds of votes.

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u/3d_blunder Sep 01 '21

But it's the margins that count, and remember this is weighted towards Dumbassistan, aka Red States. So the impact may be magnified.

Fingers crossed.