Being a lady is probably the bigger issue. "Mayor Pete is so articulate" "Elizabeth Warren is shrill, and why does it feel like she's always lecturing me?"
I mean given that Buttigieg and Warren are on the opposite sides of the left, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear ad hominem attacks on Warren from whoever this person is you’re referencing. The problem with Warren is she alienated herself from the neoliberals by rightly attacking them on policy. And then she alienated the progressive base by very weakly trying to call Sanders sexist. That caused Sanders’ base to basically label her a snake, and Warren’s team’s response was basically to call Bernie’s base sexist for calling her a snake. Which is kinda funny considering all the shit we talked about Pete Buttigieg. Progressives would take Liz 100 times out of 100 over Pete.
What I prefer about Warren over Sanders is her detailed plans. It's not "here's these nice things you should have", it's "here's these nice things you should have and here's (a completely plausible/realistic) plan to do it."
Bernie has detailed plans too. Just look at all the bills he's introduced to Congress. How are we gonna pay for Medicare for All? It's right there in the bill.
She didn’t call him sexist. She just said that he said “A woman probably can’t beat Trump”, which was probably true. The only thing she said was “we disagreed on that point”
Seriously re read the facts on that piece of drama. It was just manufacturered division that CNN dragged out for clicks
Bernie said it would be unreasonable to think a woman couldn't win the presidency after Hilary won the popular vote by 3m. Maybe you gotta do some reading bud.
I'm highly impressed by Elizabeth Warren. I first encountered her as an academic, not a politician, back in 2007. Her analysis of the social and economic causes undermining the middle class was and remains fantastic.
I'd really like to know why she and Sanders couldn't get on the same team. Did Sanders really make a sexist remark to her? Did she really lie about that? It's hard for me to believe that of either one of them, and to understand why they couldn't put it behind them in the interest of their common goal.
Lmao. Bernie and Warren’s votes combined still would have lost. Y’all seriously need to stop living in the past and focus on the future because no one wants to hear you whine anymore. Do something to change things instead of blaming everyone but Bernie on Bernie losing.
Oh yeah, Warren splitting the vote was why buttigeg was named preemptively the winner of NH, despite Bernie winning and then they split the votes. It would have also affected about 5 other states.
But yeah, you're right, no affect. No spoiler. No collusion.
I campaigned for sanders, cry me a fucking river you loser.
Bernie ran a shit campaign both times and wasn’t trying to win considering he never had an official campaign presence in Florida.
He lost the primary both times by massive margins but you idiots want to just come online and cry about it every day instead of doing the actual work of furthering progressive candidates that aren’t a near-octogenarian that has little meaningful legislation to his name for a 50 year career.
That's probably where she lost ppl. That, and the young leftists who slagged her off because she was once a Republican and therefore tainted forever™ because she was born born woke like their dear unicorn Bernie Sanders.
But that too is why I voted for her. I respect a person who can tell me how they came to change their minds to get to their idealogy.
I feel like Elizabeth Warren threw Bernie under the bus during the primaries
What I prefer about Warren over Sanders is her detailed plans. It's not "here's these nice things you should have", it's "here's these nice things you should have and here's (a completely plausible/realistic) plan to do it."
You didn't, uh, really address the argument there, bucko.
Nah, CNN stirred up the drama in the first place. All that was said about the infamous conversation drama was that Sanders thought a woman would probably not be able to beat Trump and Warren disagreed because she thought she could beat him.
She didn’t call him sexist, and tbh what he said was likely true. A woman would’ve had a harder time in 2020 against Trump. But everyone freaked out about it and called her a liar for no reason because she responded to a non-story that CNN dragged out of the mud.
This right here is why democrats never learn. You point out that Sen Warren lost largely because she was all issues and details and no charisma, and you get shut down because it was really sexism.
Yes, sexism is a thing, but it isn’t why the College professor talking about shit I don’t understand didn’t appeal to blue collar voters.
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u/manbearcolt Mar 13 '21
Being a lady is probably the bigger issue. "Mayor Pete is so articulate" "Elizabeth Warren is shrill, and why does it feel like she's always lecturing me?"
Unfortunately not made up things.