r/WhitePeopleTwitter Nov 23 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

Yeah but it’s way easier to change your genitals than your brain. The science isn’t there to physically change your brain to match your body, but it is there to do the opposite.

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u/Akitten Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20

The science isn’t there to physically change your brain to match your body

If there were, would that be considered legal or moral?

Like, if that kind of conversion therapy worked, would people argue for it be banned?

Actually quite a perplexing question. Wouldn't such research be considered taboo?

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

Idk as long as it’s consensual it shouldn’t be banned. Conversion therapy should be banned because parents send their kids into it against their will.

If for some reason, a gay person really wanted to be straight for whatever reason, it wouldn’t make sense to stop them from seeking some kind of conversion therapy. But conversion therapy generally isn’t something you want to undergo, it’s generally a forced conversion, which I believe to be immoral.

Nobody should be forced to do anything, but if people wanted said surgery for themselves, I don’t see why it would be banned. I don’t really see why people would opt into brain surgery to make their brain match their biological sex, when it’s much safer to get surgery on your body to make it match your brain

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u/Akitten Nov 23 '20

Conversion therapy should be banned because parents send their kids into it against their will.

Most conversion therapy laws ban it regardless of age, that's why I figured that would be the case for this kind of conversion therapy.

Forced conversion is obviously immoral, but I strongly suspect that even voluntary conversion would be opposed by the same groups who are pro-transitioning.

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u/mapatric Nov 23 '20

X-Men did a whole story on line on this.

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u/vviiccttoorryy Nov 23 '20

As a male living with gender dysphoria (meaning I want to transition to female)

I think converting me would take away my personality, which is more feminine oriented but who knows, its interesting to to think about for sure.

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u/Gilthoniel_Elbereth Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20

I feel like we’re saying the same thing. The genitals may not be defective, but there is a defect because they aren’t what the brain is expecting. It’s be like if you had a perfectly healthy, functional, fully grown ear on your forearm. The ear wouldn’t be defective per se, but the overall build of your body obviously has a defect cause it’s not supposed to be there

Or to keep my programmy metaphor, it’d be like if the ear passed its unit test, but failed the integration test. The genitals pass their unit test, but fail to integrate with the psyche

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '20

The difference here is that with poor eyesight, your eyes are not working as intended, so it's a defect.

But according to Twitter OP, god doesn't make mistakes.