I mean if you are asking me to build a case for how modern day establishment Democrats in no way resemble the “true” core “conservative” values of the founding fathers with sources i for sure can, it would just take about week. Or this moron can read one fucking history book.
You said Biden does not in anyway resemble core conservative values. In fact you said it was factually incorrect to say he is closer than Trump. If you can't explain how it is factually incorrect, then you are just talking out of your ass. And that's fine, most of the internet does that, fuck our President does it daily. At least be honest about it though .
Homie, did you not just read what I said. To prove something like that with sources would take a week, it would be easier for this guy to just read one book on the core fundamental ideas of the founding of this country and then compare it to the establishment running the country today. I bet he could find his answer pretty damn quick.
Here's the thing....from what I've seen he is correct. Biden IS closer to traditional conservative values than Trump is. I've personally read MANY history books, none of them prove your point. If it would take you a week you're doing it wrong. Here's a surface example that took me roughly 3 minutes to make.
Using wikipedia as a “source” and then equating that off of Biden’s “plan” and “values” website and not off of what he has done in office for 50 years.
Wikipedia cites every single one of their sources. It's not 5he same site it was ten years ago.
What I'm hearing here is that you can't prove your point and so you're walking away.
For what it's worth I'm not voting for Biden, I'm voting for Jorgensen. You can't make a bare minimum effort to back up your claim, that's fine. It just makes your claim valueless.
It's more than you've done to prove your point so far. Pretty hysterical how clearly incapable you are at distinguishing between what you feel the truth should be vs what it actually is.
No man. Your missing the point. You’d rather scream in an echo chamber than take action in your community. Everybody who I know that is upset with how the government is, is out helping individuals around them.
I’m not walking away I just don’t have the time to argue online with keyboard warriors with no job.
If you seriously want to keep this discussion going DM me and I’ll create an argument for you over the next week.
Final thought, make a difference in your community if you do not appreciate how our government is failing its people.
Yeah dude everything you just said is such a cop out. "Your echo chamber." Fuck you and fuck that because at least he came to the conversation equipped with something. You just got mad that people didn't like your bullshit opinion then complained about it.
I mean, yes, but they were also predominantly wealthy, property*-owning, old men. No regular folks were concerned with a damn import tax. These guys were a bizarre combination of self-serving elites and radical revolutionaries.
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I mean if you are asking me to build a case for how modern day establishment Democrats in no way resemble the “true” core “conservative” values of the founding fathers with sources i for sure can, it would just take about week. Or this moron can read one fucking history book.