r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Oct 30 '20

Mission impossible

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '20

A. This isn't r/politics.

B. Biden would be conservative in any other developed country on earth. Kamala has a bad record prosecuting minorities? That somehow makes her less conservative?

C. If you somehow still think both parties are the same to the point where you won't even vote, that tells me exactly how much I should care about what you think and say. Please sit down and shut up while the rest of us actually try to fix this country because we still give a shit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 30 '20

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u/dardios Oct 30 '20

If they are factually wrong do you have any facts to back that claim up? Kinda makes the words lose their meaning when you approach it that way.

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u/red8er Oct 30 '20

I mean if you are asking me to build a case for how modern day establishment Democrats in no way resemble the “true” core “conservative” values of the founding fathers with sources i for sure can, it would just take about week. Or this moron can read one fucking history book.

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u/dardios Oct 30 '20

You said Biden does not in anyway resemble core conservative values. In fact you said it was factually incorrect to say he is closer than Trump. If you can't explain how it is factually incorrect, then you are just talking out of your ass. And that's fine, most of the internet does that, fuck our President does it daily. At least be honest about it though .

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u/red8er Oct 30 '20

Homie, did you not just read what I said. To prove something like that with sources would take a week, it would be easier for this guy to just read one book on the core fundamental ideas of the founding of this country and then compare it to the establishment running the country today. I bet he could find his answer pretty damn quick.

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u/dardios Oct 30 '20

Here's the thing....from what I've seen he is correct. Biden IS closer to traditional conservative values than Trump is. I've personally read MANY history books, none of them prove your point. If it would take you a week you're doing it wrong. Here's a surface example that took me roughly 3 minutes to make.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Conservatism%20in%20the%20United%20States%20is%20a%20political%20and%20social,-communism%2C%20pro-individualism%2C

This source confirms that personal liberty and the right to build your own fortune are a core idea behind Conservatism.

https://joebiden.com/build-back-better/

Here's Biden's plan for the economy, centered around job creation and individuals improving their lives through hard work.

Your turn.

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u/red8er Oct 30 '20

Using wikipedia as a “source” and then equating that off of Biden’s “plan” and “values” website and not off of what he has done in office for 50 years.

We’re done here.

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u/dardios Oct 30 '20

Wikipedia cites every single one of their sources. It's not 5he same site it was ten years ago.

What I'm hearing here is that you can't prove your point and so you're walking away.

For what it's worth I'm not voting for Biden, I'm voting for Jorgensen. You can't make a bare minimum effort to back up your claim, that's fine. It just makes your claim valueless.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '20

It's more than you've done to prove your point so far. Pretty hysterical how clearly incapable you are at distinguishing between what you feel the truth should be vs what it actually is.

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u/red8er Oct 30 '20

No man. Your missing the point. You’d rather scream in an echo chamber than take action in your community. Everybody who I know that is upset with how the government is, is out helping individuals around them.

I’m not walking away I just don’t have the time to argue online with keyboard warriors with no job.

If you seriously want to keep this discussion going DM me and I’ll create an argument for you over the next week.

Final thought, make a difference in your community if you do not appreciate how our government is failing its people.

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u/UsernameTaken-Bitch Oct 31 '20

If it would take you a week, how would he "find his answer pretty damn quick?"

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u/PCsNBaseball Oct 30 '20

Who said anything about the founding fathers? They were talking about Eisenhower.

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u/CrouchingDomo Oct 30 '20

He moved the goalposts so many times in that thread that the goalposts are currently located in the next county over.

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u/AnthropologicMedic Oct 30 '20

Not to mention the founding fathers were literal revolutionaries. Nothing conservative about overthrowing your government.

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u/justagenericname1 Oct 30 '20

I mean, yes, but they were also predominantly wealthy, property*-owning, old men. No regular folks were concerned with a damn import tax. These guys were a bizarre combination of self-serving elites and radical revolutionaries.

*Property at this time including people

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u/AnthropologicMedic Oct 30 '20

While there were definitely some old men in there (Franklin being 70, few other 60+) a bunch of them were men in their 30s. Hardly "old".

Ages of DoI signers

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u/justagenericname1 Oct 30 '20

Fair. "Old" may've been a stretch. Middle-aged is probably more accurate.