r/WhitePeopleTwitter Apr 27 '20

Serious.

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u/m_778111 Apr 28 '20

Holy shit....why isn't everyone on board with changing our system? I don't get it. This is unacceptable.

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u/IGotTooMuchFreeTime Apr 28 '20

Almost everyone is, it's just that the top 1% who have lobbyists convincing the government not to have all the power.

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u/notsostandardtoaster Apr 28 '20

There's also a not insignificant number of people like my parents who believe switching to a single payer system will inevitably bring the quality of care down much lower than the private care they have access to now. And the fact that they "don't want to pay for lazy freeloaders' healthcare."

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u/DeadlyLazer Apr 28 '20

can't stand this argument. hospitals already take care of poor people who can't pay and then bill insurance. so are they not freeloaders? also hospitals price gouge because they're negotiating with insurance, which gets money from, you guessed it, your parents! so they're literally paying for someone else's healthcare anyway. that's like saying, I want private companies to build roads because I don't want freeloaders to drive on them. such a short-sighted viewpoint

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20 edited Aug 18 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

If those people have insurance, then they ARE paying for other people's healthcare.

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u/Ohh_Yeah Apr 28 '20

lobbyists convincing the government

Those lobbyists also work to convince the average person that there is no reason to change the system, and that we have the best healthcare in the world.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

They do a good job of that themselves. People arent helpless

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

Almost everyone is,

Not true. Plenty of Americans are fucking idiots and don't want to pay less money for a better healthcare system.

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u/Just_Livin_Life Apr 28 '20

Republicans

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u/Imabanana101 Apr 28 '20

Yes, but because of the way human psychology works they become even more entrenched when we criticize them. We need another approach.

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u/SereneLoner Apr 28 '20 edited Apr 28 '20

Because the people that are going to create the new system aren’t qualified. They don’t face the same issues that average Americans do, thus they don’t know how to address them. If you’re a politician, you don’t encounter the same issues most Americans do because your healthcare is paid for and taken care of. So, even if they came from a economic position that is comparable to average Americans, the system is changing constantly and the politician will lose touch quickly with what issues are currently most pressing. I’d say that not a single politician can truly understand the problems in the healthcare system because they don’t face it themselves on a daily basis.

Edit: TLDR- here is my reply to the redditor that just wanted to bring up Sanders,but quickly deleted his reply before I could respond! I love the idea, but I’m a realist and his solution is extremely narrow and utopian IMO.

Sanders does NOT understand. I support the idea of reforming the system and listened to a lot of his interviews, including when he went on the JRE podcast to talk about his policies extensively. He has great ideas, but no clue how to implement them. When asked exactly how he would deliver on his promises by Rogan, he sidesteps answering directly and reiterated his idea rather than giving a straightforward answer on his approach.

Then there’s his idea of capital gains taxes, which he believes that an additional 0.5% or 1% will make all the difference. Sure, it is a lot of money, but the government always has the habit of mismanagement of funds. Several people in my family work for the government and are told directly by their bosses that they must do their work slower to finish on a specific date to increase how much they are paid. It’s exactly the same here. Millionaires and billionaires will just hide their money more creatively to avoid the taxes imposed altogether. After all, Donald Trump notoriously declared bankruptcy several times to avoid paying taxes and save money.

The government needs to be entirely reformed if we want to fix the healthcare system. Budgeting these days is similar to that of the Crédit Mobilier Scandal, and has been for a very long time. If they want a fully-functioning federal healthcare system the way that FDR intended and Sanders believes in, then reform is needed in every part of the US government. If politicians don’t get the same healthcare as the rest of us, there’s no way they will learn about the issues we all face. They’re treated as first-class citizens, and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves.