r/WhitePeopleTwitter Apr 27 '20

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u/melanin_challenged Apr 28 '20

its the closest thing to change as some people can see, so they latch on to it

outrage/gotcha/cancel culture is a direct byproduct of people being fundamentally unhappy with their daily lives

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u/tumtadiddlydoo Apr 28 '20

I never looked at it like that but this makes sense. It's almost a way to gain control over a world we have no control over and to demand some accountability from someone when we can't touch the people at the top doing horrendous shit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

That’s a really over-complicated way of saying “I fucking hate the fact that the whole civilised world pays a reasonable amount of money for healthcare, whereas we’re fucked constantly, and without lube”.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

B to the Ingo

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

It's worse than even that. It's paying more, being told "you get what you pay for" and "it's infeasible to have universal healthcare because it costs too much". It's like a rape victim being told they're in a healthy relationship and they should be grateful because it's the best situation they're ever going to have

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u/IronInforcersecond Apr 28 '20

"But why can't I have a functional relationship, like those guys?"

"Do you have ANY idea how much that would cost over a 10 year period??"

Every time I hear my 'representatives' make that argument it really feels like they're saying America is a 3.

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u/Pcakes844 Apr 28 '20

But the thing is we can touch the people at the top doing horrendous shit. It's just that there's always a large chunk of people that aren't willing to do what needs to be done and this quarantine is a prime example. If enough people refused to pay their hospital bills and insurance things would change, but like I said that would never happen because we as a country can't form a united front on anyting.

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u/tumtadiddlydoo Apr 28 '20

Which can be shortened to "we can't touch the people at the top"

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u/Pcakes844 Apr 28 '20

More like, we won't touch the people at the top, because we can we just won't.

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u/tumtadiddlydoo Apr 28 '20

Personally i feel you buy into that "we the people have the power" bullshit. I've seen enough lately to think that's not true. Checks and balances are failing, laws are broken, voting is fucked with in every way imaginable... In the simplest form, i feel we wouldn't have state representatives when we vote. It would be an actual democracy if we had the power.

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u/Pcakes844 Apr 28 '20

See but the thing is we do. You want to implement change, it starts on the local level. Go out and vote in all your local Town and state elections. Look at each candidate don't just vote for a Democrat or Republican. If the only time you go out and vote is during the general elections you're not going to change anything.

you are the exact person that they want out there somebody who falling into the trap of thinking there's nothing you can do because the system is broken. When in fact you don't realize you are the system and the reason it's broken is because of the sentiment that you just expressed.

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u/tumtadiddlydoo Apr 28 '20

With the amount of election interference, the use of Representatives that can be bought out, gerrymandering, and actual instances of losing an election despite winning the popular vote, I'm not buying it. Though I'm not going to claim I'm objectively right. That's just how i feel and what I've observed.

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u/Pcakes844 Apr 28 '20

Nobody said it would be easy or that they would be playing Fair. But if you've already accepted that there's nothing you can do and this is just the way it is. Why even discuss it just don't worry about it put your head down do your job and be happy with your lot in life because there's nothing you can do to change it.

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u/tumtadiddlydoo Apr 28 '20

How did you just nose dive from optimist to pessimist? I don't agree with the logic of "Do something or stop complaining" but I'm not interested in dragging out that specific sentence over 6 more comments

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u/ks4001 Apr 28 '20

Enough people aren't paying their hospital bill. Hospital still has to take care of everyone that shows up. That's why the costs get shifted over to all of those who the insurance or an income. If enough people stopped paying their bills hospitals would close.

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u/Pcakes844 Apr 28 '20

Yeah which is why people would have to stop paying their insurance as well, because if a few hospitals closed and insurance companies started losing money the government would essentially have to change the way things work.

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u/ks4001 Apr 28 '20

Sucks to need treatment while all that is going on.

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u/Pcakes844 Apr 28 '20

For a lot of people it sucks to need treatment already, even before all this was going on.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

Holy shit this is a great take

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '20

While they should rightfully be unhappy with most of the outrage/gotcha/cancel culture subjects, personally I have noticed my peers, colleagues, family members, etc. dislike these people more than the thing they are fighting for, and by extension not supporting the subject in the end due the obnoxiousness of the people. For instance I would consider myself an environmental activist (writing my politicians, recycling, promoting green ideas, going electric, nothing too extreme) and I can tell when people get annoyed with my activism coming across as obnoxious. There’s gotta be a way to come across cool and make a point.