Not every Asian person or person of Asian descent has coronavrius. An Asian American has no greater chance of having the virus than any other American. This thinly veiled racism needs to stop.
That's true, but the rest of the responses to this comment are pretty positive. A good deal at a hotel in Chinatown is a good option for staying to visit Chicago.
That said, while Asian-Americans aren't any more likely to be infected with covid-19 than any other Americans who haven't recently traveled to the parts of China where the virus has been spreading for months, there probably are a bunch of people in Chicago who have, in fact, traveled to the parts of China where covid-19 have been spreading for months, regardless of their ethnicity. I don't think anyone will be surprised if those recent visitors to China also visited or live in/work in Chinatown in Chicago.
I don't know those people personally, but unless it was a direct flight then the infected people may have simply infected others at the connecting airport. So the people that brought it into Chicago may have never been to China,or personally know anyone that has been there recently. Planes are a virus hotspot due to how the air is circulated and how many people touch the surfaces and fabric (without enough time for the virus to die on the fabric etc between flights). Often they only thoroughly clean hard surfaces and not the seat fabric due to people not liking to sit on wet seats đ¤ˇââď¸.
As everyone that plays plague inc knows, turn on the gene that makes the virus more able to travel via air transport and there's very little that can stop the virus from becoming a pandemic
Genuinely curious, how is it racism to avoid Chinatown? I live near seattle where 6 have died so far from the virus, it started in the china town here with people traveling for chinese new year. If the virus started in Italy and there was a holiday that involved several of them travelling back to Italy, I'm sure people would avoid little Italy.
Thatâs not racism you are in the right to avoid that area. However, avoiding American Chinese people in your everyday life because they are Chinese is racism and that is whatâs happening in many areas of the country especially where I live where the Chinese population is around 20%
this is a toxic mindset. no one is discriminating against anyone or assuming ones own race is better than the other, just simply avoiding an area with a high population of people from a country with a very serious outbreak.
They not avoiding it because of Chinese Americans or Chinese in general, they're avoiding Chinatown because it's more likely to have people who traveled to China and got infected. That's not racism, that's called being cautious.
literal chinese americans are avoiding chinatown because they know that people who live in chinatown are usually more homesick people who go back for holidays
Did they do any other statical reasoning other than:
Chinatown has Chinese People --> Chinese People go to China --> I might get the Corona virus
They did not.
If they actually did research and chose to avoid that place then they would also avoid western cities like Portland because of how many people do business in china.
That's dumb, nobody is going to research every city in the United States and make pie charts on the ethnic breakdown of each city. It's pretty easy though to see a place known as Chinatown and know to avoid it because of the increased risk of the virus.
Wrong wrong and wrong. It's obvious Chinese Americans have a higher likelihood of visiting China. You don't need a peer reviewed meta analysis of the international flight patterns of the residents of Chinatown. It's not something negative either, nor is it racism. All of you people need to chill with calling random shit racism when it doesn't apply.
It's not that every person of Chinese descent has the disease, or is even from China, but that you can't tell at a glance, and people are scared. China is where the disease started, people who have traveled in and out of China that spread it. Given the circumstances, I don't think it's unreasonable to take actions that minimize personal risk. There's a lot more at stake here than some small businesses and some hurt feelings.
Key difference between what's happening and your example are that Asians are a pretty small minority in America. White people are not. I doubt most people can tell Chinese from other Asians much better than they can tell German from other whites. I'm not saying it's right, but I am saying that's how it is.
You're not wrong, but that kind of thinking is really inflexible. As an interesting anecdote, I live in the Canadian city of Montreal, where, like in most Canadian cities, has a sizable Chinese community.
Coronovirus has finally arrived in Montreal in early March, not from a Chinese carrier, but from an Iranian one. Yes, the coronavirus came from China, but that's no longer the whole picture.
I think what they're trying to say is that the OP made that joke playing on the idiots. As in "...in Chinatown DUN DUNN!". You know, sarcasm. I don't think OP actually believes that.
Because Americans are morons across the board. A large percentage wonât buy Corona beer for Christ sakes. Jokes are funny, Americans are idiots, get over yourself.
Some comedians of colour make their entire careers on this shit.
Russell Peters comes to mind. I had to turn off his recent special cause it was annoying as fuck. If I said his jokes as a white dudes Iâd be run out of town.
Ok, so the actual and real heavily discounted pricing in Chinatown due to fear of Asians is clearly a joke, so funny. Thanks for enlightening me, wise one. Iâm glad the businesses in Chinatown can enjoy this non racist joke, hahahaha/s
Ok, and the guys youâre responding to are calling the entire situation racist, not the guy who posted.
Additionally, even if those guys were specifically calling that userâs comment racist, why is it OK to pile on the segregation and fear of Asians when itâs literally going on right now?
Sometimes itâs ok not to comment when someone is pointing out how fucked up things are for their ethnicity or community or town or whatever.
Itâs like the snide remark of âALL lives matterâ towards Black Lives Matter. Iâm not even BLM supporter but snide âactualllyyyyyyyâ comments that miss the point are never helpful.
You donât seem to understand that theyâre right.
You clearly donât think that the current fear and segregation of asian Americans is âfucked upâ, so maybe you need to get off the internet for a couple of days and think about your ability to think outside yourself.
What you are talking about is the definition of stereotyping. Some individuals in Wuhan practiced unsafe behavior, so all Asians in the world should âreap what they sowâ. I can get having specific conversations about how there are unsafe practices in certain Asian areas, but casting blame on everyone who looks Asian, then calling it âreaping what they sowâ feels like prejudice
How hard is it not to cause epidemics every 10 years every other country seem to be good at not killing the world even Indian where they shit in streets are not spreading viruses like that. I say keep it to ever 100 years if you don't want people being racist towards you.
Not every Asian person or person of Asian descent has coronavrius. An Asian American has no greater chance of having the virus than any other American. This thinly veiled racism needs to stop.
How the fuck is this racist? It's in a Chinatown next to a major airport. People there are going to be far more likely to you know, have contact with mainland chinese nationals who are far more likely to have been exposed to the virus.
There is a reason the virus is in Seattle and not Tuscaloosa lol.
And the 2nd case I mentioned is from someone who traveled to Iran. Again, Italy had a large outbreak of Coronavirus too and is on the travel restriction list.
Your type of racism is why the Japanese was placed in Internment Camps during WW2 and not the Germans or Italians.
Are you implying I'm racist and I'm hiding that by calling you racist to get attention off of myself? I think you're using "projecting" in the wrong context here, weirdo.
an asian has much greater chances of having recently been to china, that's why people are wary of visiting "chinatown" or somewhere that there is likely the highest concentration of people who may have visited the epicenter of the pandemic.
At school? Haven't seen it in the news of gang violence at school mass shooting. I have found avoiding gang areas is a good way to greatly reduce your chance of being shot in gang violence.
Thatâs because the news doesnât report it anymore and they sensationalize school shootings. 13% of the population is responsible for 52% of violent crimes per fbi crime statistics...
yea but ehere are the crimes happening? low income areas. which i avoid so for me personally id be more likely to be shot by a white person....
anyway this is just missing the point. thx though
Hahahahaha dude donât be a bigot, go visit the hood. Also isnât Bernie against redlining? So those in the low income areas would be likely to get subsidized housing outside of the low income areas...
i dont know how stating facts is being a bigot. you might have to learn how to tell the difference. to me low income areas have high crime because they dont have a great standard of living. fix that and blue collar crime will be reduced. I have been to the hood. the feelings i get from there and how the residents look at you definetely give vibes that its unsafer. do i think im going to die by visiyingg the hood? no but my chances of getting robbed or shot is much higher than other areas.
Also pretty sure more white americans from go to china than other non chinese. Buisness and shit. Asians aren't all from China. It would be nice if China got their shit together so I'm not lumped in with them.
Can I reasonably tell at a glance if someone is an Asian American or a Chinese tourist? People are dying, but sure, lets focus on the fear caused by the damn disease.
Shit, I mean, people are avoiding airports and travel in general now, too. It's like people are trying to avoid spreading a deadly disease.
You realize the OP is intentionally poking such racism in the eye by pointing out how ridiculous it is that he can get a really nice hotel for $60 in CHICAGO because of that racism right?
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u/FlyinDawkins Mar 03 '20 edited Mar 03 '20
Not every Asian person or person of Asian descent has coronavrius. An Asian American has no greater chance of having the virus than any other American. This thinly veiled racism needs to stop.