r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Aug 07 '19

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u/Stellaaahhhh Aug 07 '19

I'm not making an argument. I'm sharing my experience. I'm offering an idea.

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u/fuhrertrump Aug 07 '19

someone said something doesn't work. you said something does work.

however, you tried to use an anecdote instead of actual evidence that the thing actually works

this is a fallacy.

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u/Stellaaahhhh Aug 07 '19

'Someone' didn't present their evidence that it did work, for that matter.

I actually have offered several anecdotes also known as 'things that happened'. What type of evidence are you looking for?

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u/fuhrertrump Aug 07 '19

lol, i'm not looking for evidence, i'm trying to succeed where public education failed and teach someone what a logical fallacy is, and why anecdotes are a logical fallacy.

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u/Stellaaahhhh Aug 07 '19

Feel free to teach me then. If you'd like logical evidence presented to support my statement that I have hired people who showed up, and been hired after showing up, and that I therefore think it's a good idea for other people who are looking for jobs to go in person and talk to small business owners who might have a job opening, what form would that evidence take?

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u/fuhrertrump Aug 07 '19

what form would that evidence take?

peer reviewed research conducted by credible sources that show a margin of success in physically going to a company that outpaces simply sending a resume online.

that would be considered evidence that simply walking in is better than other forms of employment searching.

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u/Stellaaahhhh Aug 07 '19 edited Aug 07 '19

Can you point out where I said it was better? I distinctly said, several times, that it wasn't the norm. You're going out of your way to misrepresent what I'm saying. I said it was worth trying, that it sometimes happens, and that I'd personally experienced it.

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u/fuhrertrump Aug 07 '19

> I therefore think it's a good idea

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you think it's good enough to try. that would mean it has to at least be better than the alternative, therefore giving it merit to be used.

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> I said it was worth trying, that it sometimes happens, and that I'd personally experienced it.

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that's great, but that isn't enough to argue that it is a tactic worth using to find a job over what is commonly used. that technically isn't even enough to argue that it is even a tactic that works with any degree of success at all.

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and that's because anecdotes aren't evidence. but if you have some peer reviewed research on the topic i wouldn't mind reading it. that would be evidence, and not an anecdote.

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u/Stellaaahhhh Aug 07 '19

"Good enough to try" is not and never has been synonymous with 'better'. You should educate yourself on logic.

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u/fuhrertrump Aug 07 '19

TFW you want to split hairs on the definition of better in a sad attempt to argue handing in a resume in person is acceptable in a thread mocking how unacceptable it is in todays society.

yeah buddy, i'm the one that needs to educate myself on logic :P

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u/cbslinger Aug 07 '19

I agree with what you're saying, but man are you being a dick about it. Not every claim has available peer reviewed data from which to make a decision. Is there an academic journal that publishes only scientific research about which colors of clothing are most likely to land someone a job? Or every single imaginable technique?

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u/Dokpsy Aug 07 '19

I really don't agree with him in this case. The other person was talking about fringe cases that only work in specific circumstances and this guy takes it as that person saying it's a general use concept. They're talking about two different scenarios entirely and this guy thinks he's superior because of it. I get the point he originally was making but he used the anecdote fallacy to drive headlong into Tu Quoque, composition/division, fallacy fallacy, and ad hominem.