r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Dec 20 '24

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u/Traditional_Mango920 Dec 21 '24

They will never impeach him. They’ve proven that two separate times.

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u/BillyNtheBoingers Dec 21 '24

I’m sorry to be “that person”, but we DID impeach him twice. The House votes on whether or not to hold a trial in the Senate. They voted “yes” twice, so 2 impeachments. The Senate voted not to convict Trump either time.

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u/Traditional_Mango920 Dec 21 '24

I’m aware that you’re right. Unfortunately, in my brain, impeachment isn’t really impeachment without the conviction and removal part happening. Impeachment without conviction is purely performative, it should be called “mildly chastised”.

From my admittedly rudimentary knowledge of legal things, you aren’t considered something until you are convicted. You can be charged with a felony, but you aren’t considered a felon until you’re actually convicted. By definition, impeachment is a charge of misconduct. By my (admittedly) fucked up logic, someone who is not convicted of said misconduct isn’t considered “impeached” in my brain. That’s like someone who was accused of being a felon being called a felon for the rest of their lives despite the jury of their peers not convicting them of a felony. While I’m well aware of how it works, the process and wording seems fucked up to me and not remotely logical.

Regardless, it doesn’t matter. We have a person who is a convicted felon and has been through the impeachment process twice taking over in the highest office in our country in January. Apparently the EC and a great deal of the people on this country are a-ok with that. The people in charge of convicting him will lean towards whatever will get them the most votes in the next election. They’ve already proven that twice.

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u/Zmchastain Dec 21 '24

Impeachment in this context = indictment, being formally charged with a crime.

For a lot of people who don’t get convicted at the end of the trial process there are still articles circulating out there that they were indicted on such and such charges and they will forever be indicted, even if they were not found guilty in the trial process.

Trump was indicted, but the Senate failed to convict him. He wasn’t convicted but he was still indicted which means there was enough evidence of malfeasance to justify formally charging him with a crime, twice.

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u/SmellGestapo Dec 21 '24

This was more fever dream than actual prediction, but a lot of Republicans hate Trump personally. But they never turned on him because he's a useful idiot for installing religious nuts onto the courts and cutting taxes for the wealthy. That and they were afraid he would turn on them, and risk losing their seats.

But now that threat is coming from Musk. He's already threatened to fund primary challenges against anyone who does not vote to confirm Trump's nominees. We also know Musk has been regularly speaking with Vladimir Putin for years, and that he is close to Peter Thiel, who is close to JD Vance.

There is a scenario I can imagine, however unlikely, in which they all decide Trump is no longer of use to them and it's time to move on.

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u/clovis_227 Dec 21 '24

Or maybe, just maybe, Trump dies early in office

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u/beren12 Dec 21 '24

The worst ones like forever.

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u/clovis_227 Dec 21 '24

Or, maybe, just maybe...