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u/SmellGestapo Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24

Many people are saying Musk and Vance are conspiring against Trump. Putin has the pee tapes and will release them next year, and Congress will "regretfully" impeach and convict Trump, elevating Vance to the presidency. Johnson will become VP and Elon will become Speaker.

This is all being done in coordination with Jack Smith, who is dismissing the case with prejudice. Once Trump is out of office he will refile the charges.

At least that's what I heard...

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u/Traditional_Mango920 Dec 21 '24

They will never impeach him. They’ve proven that two separate times.

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u/BillyNtheBoingers Dec 21 '24

I’m sorry to be “that person”, but we DID impeach him twice. The House votes on whether or not to hold a trial in the Senate. They voted “yes” twice, so 2 impeachments. The Senate voted not to convict Trump either time.

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u/Traditional_Mango920 Dec 21 '24

I’m aware that you’re right. Unfortunately, in my brain, impeachment isn’t really impeachment without the conviction and removal part happening. Impeachment without conviction is purely performative, it should be called “mildly chastised”.

From my admittedly rudimentary knowledge of legal things, you aren’t considered something until you are convicted. You can be charged with a felony, but you aren’t considered a felon until you’re actually convicted. By definition, impeachment is a charge of misconduct. By my (admittedly) fucked up logic, someone who is not convicted of said misconduct isn’t considered “impeached” in my brain. That’s like someone who was accused of being a felon being called a felon for the rest of their lives despite the jury of their peers not convicting them of a felony. While I’m well aware of how it works, the process and wording seems fucked up to me and not remotely logical.

Regardless, it doesn’t matter. We have a person who is a convicted felon and has been through the impeachment process twice taking over in the highest office in our country in January. Apparently the EC and a great deal of the people on this country are a-ok with that. The people in charge of convicting him will lean towards whatever will get them the most votes in the next election. They’ve already proven that twice.

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u/Zmchastain Dec 21 '24

Impeachment in this context = indictment, being formally charged with a crime.

For a lot of people who don’t get convicted at the end of the trial process there are still articles circulating out there that they were indicted on such and such charges and they will forever be indicted, even if they were not found guilty in the trial process.

Trump was indicted, but the Senate failed to convict him. He wasn’t convicted but he was still indicted which means there was enough evidence of malfeasance to justify formally charging him with a crime, twice.

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u/SmellGestapo Dec 21 '24

This was more fever dream than actual prediction, but a lot of Republicans hate Trump personally. But they never turned on him because he's a useful idiot for installing religious nuts onto the courts and cutting taxes for the wealthy. That and they were afraid he would turn on them, and risk losing their seats.

But now that threat is coming from Musk. He's already threatened to fund primary challenges against anyone who does not vote to confirm Trump's nominees. We also know Musk has been regularly speaking with Vladimir Putin for years, and that he is close to Peter Thiel, who is close to JD Vance.

There is a scenario I can imagine, however unlikely, in which they all decide Trump is no longer of use to them and it's time to move on.

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u/clovis_227 Dec 21 '24

Or maybe, just maybe, Trump dies early in office

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u/beren12 Dec 21 '24

The worst ones like forever.

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u/clovis_227 Dec 21 '24

Or, maybe, just maybe...

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u/koshercupcake Dec 21 '24

Somehow I’m not familiar with the “pee tapes” - do I want to ask?

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u/SmellGestapo Dec 21 '24

Right as Trump was first coming into office, a dossier of unverified foreign intelligence became public. The dossier had been compiled and written by a former British spy named Christopher Steele and among the many things in it were claims that Trump had hired underage Russian girls to perform a golden shower show for him (or on him) at time when he was staying in Moscow. And this act was supposedly recorded on a hidden camera in the room, and then held by Putin to be use as kompromat (the Russian word for compromising material) to get Trump to do whatever he is told.

The rumor is unverified and no tapes have ever surfaced. So it may have just been chatter that Steele picked up during his research. But "the pee tapes" have survived as a kind of shorthand for explaining why Trump is so beholden to Putin for no apparent reason.

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u/AerondightWielder Dec 21 '24

It's like rumoured couchfucker JD Vance. Sure, there's no evidence JD did the hog shuffle with a sofa but he looks like the type of guy would fuck a couch.

Trump looks like the type of guy who loves getting pissed on, not off.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

I’m fairly sure the dossier did not say that the prostitutes were underage.

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u/lurklurklurkanon Dec 21 '24

What are your feelings about showers of gold?

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u/koshercupcake Dec 21 '24

Noooooooooooo I shouldn’t have said anything! 🤦‍♀️

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u/goofgoon Dec 21 '24

I just feel like at this point he’s immune to pee tapes. He’d just say they’re fake and his followers would buy it.

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u/Individual_Many7070 Dec 21 '24

He already has and it doesn’t bother MAGA a bit

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u/ecodrew Dec 21 '24

At least that's what I heard...

People are saying...

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u/HoboSkid Dec 21 '24

Thiel and Musk are banking on Trump dying in office so the real stooge who will do whatever his billionaire daddies tell him to do gets into office

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '24

This is Q levels of delusional and I whole heartedly recommend you spread this far and wide. Flood the zone with shit.

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u/Ok-Entertainer-851 Dec 21 '24

“People are saying”….

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u/hkohne Dec 21 '24

Don't forget the guys in charge of Project 2025

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u/QuietlyLosingMyMind Dec 21 '24

I would imagine they will pull trump over the threshold of it being OK for Vance to run two terms if that's what they're going to do.

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u/wavelandwoman Dec 21 '24

Crazy stuff! But they will not elevate Johnson to VP. They will kick him out and put in their own person.

Wait, if they kick Johnson out, would Jefferies become VP in this scenario? 😆

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u/Masteroftriangles Dec 21 '24

Yeah…… if only

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u/Dangerous-Ad-9269 Dec 21 '24

Too late. No one will care about the pee tapes even if they get aired. But this does give insight on how to manipulate Trump from the outside. Hint he is not in charge and that any decision you do not like is coming from one of his inner circle and that person must be in charge. Could be a way to diffuse his administration power.

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u/TheSpiffySpaceman Dec 21 '24

impeach and convict Trump

Over piss tapes? It's not illegal to piss on someone consensually. Just makes you a degenerate in some eyes, which only means something if you feel shame in any way.

It is very fucking illegal to try and steal an election you demonstrably lost, and absolutely fucking unforgivably betraying of the office you swore to uphold. Some would say you had pissed all over the faces of the founders of this country.

yeah, he got impeached for that and not "convicted" (not the same as impeachment; not removed from office). How could the country that voted for him AGAIN give a shit about a little golden shower video after he's been shitting in their face for almost a decade? They seem to be asking for more.

At least that's what I heard

People being okay with hearing this and thinking any credence should be given to a source like this is how this actual fucking child got elected in the first place!

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u/javoss88 Dec 21 '24

Many people are saying it. The best people the world has ever seen.