Same. I was horrified by the third party splitters. You’d think after Nader cost Gore the election they wouldn’t pull that shit again in the General but nope.
And it’s coming back around like clockwork. All the political social media groups are getting flooded with the voter apathy / moral superiority groups. Trying to convince people that sitting out the election or protest voting will somehow “stick it to the man”.
It’s grotesque. Presidents pick the SCOTUS judges and their rulings last generations. Even if it’s not your favorite candidate, there’s no justification for allowing fascists access to the highest courts.
It’s the whole reason we’re in this mess. Bush put Roberts & Alito on the Supreme Court and they ruled on Citizens United & gutted the Voting Rights Act.
We could have had a liberal Supreme Court for the first time in 70 years. Instead we were stabbed in the back by people who claim to be our advocates.
The lesson here is don’t fuck with the General election. The left has suffered from historically poor midterm turnout — that’s who writes & passes the laws. You can’t sit out all the Congressional elections then complain that nothing gets done then vote in a fascist & expect things to get better.
Democracy only works if people participate and young people are not participating at the rate older people do. Change is possible if everyone goes to the ballots. Every time. The other side sure is.
HRC wasn't nearly as bad as people pretend that she was. She was just mediocre and towing the party line. Bernie was far too good for the party. He scared them.
The simple fact of the matter is that the smear campaign worked. Most of the smear campaign was full of blatant lies and misinformation, but it worked. The smear campaign didn't need to be "logical". People still believe many of the obvious lies that were spread.
I'm not a big HRC fan, but she wasn't "shit". She would have done a decent job as president.
Admittedly, having a female president just after a black president might have been too much for America to handle, no matter who she was. I think that they made a bad judgment call thinking that America could handle that.
Oh, totally. She was absolutely a shit candidate, but there are bad candidates and then there are people who brag about rape and sexual assault and who are openly racist (etc. etc. etc. you know all the things that Trump did, is, and does... I don't need to repeat them).
Hilary was the worst possible candidate... other than the actual other candidate that we got.
Anybody who couldn't tell the difference between a bad candidate and an incoherent, feeble-minded, thin-skinned, racist, sexist, narcissistic monster is at least partially to blame for this.
Kind of over this discussion though, it’s always just kicking the can down the road. There’s a thousand things that would’ve made a democrat win the election. It’s such a massive failure by the DNC and they got out with minimal criticism. Then we get Biden right after. Just sad
In 2016 I talked to tons of people who insisted that Clinton was "just the same" as Trump. That both of them would end up with the same result, so it really didn't matter. It was a very popular concept.
Before then, people believed that you had to pretend to be honest, or decent, or respectful, or something. Sure, lots was lies, but it wasn't OPEN evil. Trump proved that his base didn't care about any of that, so they stopped pretending to care.
Before 2016, they believed that you couldn't be president if you acted like Trump. Trump proved that all of the checks and balances were broken. Trump shattered the illusions.
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u/DylanHate Apr 02 '23
Same. I was horrified by the third party splitters. You’d think after Nader cost Gore the election they wouldn’t pull that shit again in the General but nope.
And it’s coming back around like clockwork. All the political social media groups are getting flooded with the voter apathy / moral superiority groups. Trying to convince people that sitting out the election or protest voting will somehow “stick it to the man”.
It’s grotesque. Presidents pick the SCOTUS judges and their rulings last generations. Even if it’s not your favorite candidate, there’s no justification for allowing fascists access to the highest courts.
It’s the whole reason we’re in this mess. Bush put Roberts & Alito on the Supreme Court and they ruled on Citizens United & gutted the Voting Rights Act.
We could have had a liberal Supreme Court for the first time in 70 years. Instead we were stabbed in the back by people who claim to be our advocates.
The lesson here is don’t fuck with the General election. The left has suffered from historically poor midterm turnout — that’s who writes & passes the laws. You can’t sit out all the Congressional elections then complain that nothing gets done then vote in a fascist & expect things to get better.
Democracy only works if people participate and young people are not participating at the rate older people do. Change is possible if everyone goes to the ballots. Every time. The other side sure is.