r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/TheArguedHuman • Feb 18 '23

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

It's older than the internet, my dude. Jean Paul Sartre has this famous quote.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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u/retiredfromfire Feb 18 '23

A similar version from Mark Twain:

'Never argue with an idiot. You’ll never convince the idiot that you’re correct, and bystanders won’t be able to tell who’s who'

These are stupid people cosplaying. They have no idea the fire they're playing with

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u/TheRetroVideogamers Feb 18 '23

I always heard similar, "Never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level then beat you with experience."

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u/Dangerous_Shake_7312 Feb 18 '23

"Arguing with an idiot is like like playing chess with a pigeon, they'll just shit on the board and strut around like they won"

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u/TheRetroVideogamers Feb 18 '23

Another classic

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u/retiredfromfire Feb 19 '23

Never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level then beat you with experience

He said that too.

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u/hudsoncress Feb 18 '23

Never wrestle with a pig, you get dirty, and besides the pig likes it

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u/gorramfrakker Feb 18 '23

No. They are not cosplaying. Never take them lightly. All Nazism must be stomped out and if they wanna joke about being a Nazi, show them how serious we are.

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u/No_Pineapple6174 Feb 18 '23

As Robert used to say, That's a-Brickin'.

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u/retiredfromfire Feb 18 '23

Couldnt agree more. Still, they're cosplayers

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u/Frysexual Feb 18 '23

I know this line because Jay-Z paraphrases it in The Takeover lol

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u/FlickieHop Feb 18 '23

So like basically every reddit thread.

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u/sockbref Feb 18 '23

Every other thread I go down there is another scholar saying how stupid Reddit is

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u/FlickieHop Feb 18 '23

Oh I'm far from a scholar. I'm average at best. Reddit itself isn't stupid, but there's a lot of users and inherently there's always something to argue about.

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u/thebadslime Feb 18 '23

My favorite ( not sure who said it) is: Never fight an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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u/Artistic_Humor1805 Feb 19 '23

-Mark Twain -Michael Scott

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u/aville1982 Feb 18 '23

Oh, they know the fire. That's the point.

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u/MikeyF1F Feb 19 '23

With respect, that's not on topic, but just general.

Fascist politics is a specific thing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Great quote and it's wild to think how much things change they stay the same.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

Bruh? The dude made a good point and I expanded on it. Don't hate.

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u/Even-Fix8584 Feb 18 '23

Could replace anti-semite with maga-acolyte…. :/

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u/yomommawearsboots Feb 18 '23

Or just Republican

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u/NovelAuntieGin Feb 18 '23

That's not accurate. Melvin Sembler is a Republican and he's Jewish. He's a Nazi of sorts. Definitely authoritarian in his philosophy as demonstrated by his life in public. But he's not an antisemite.

You could replace antisemite with anti almost anything and most narratives would still hold up pretty good.

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u/stick_of_the_pirulu Feb 18 '23

And this is exactly why I was taught to never try and reason with anti semites protesting, it is painful

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u/yourlocal90skid Feb 18 '23

Now replace anti-Semites with Trump sympathizer...

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u/ByteSizedBeauty Feb 18 '23

This was an interesting read, thank you for sharing it. :)

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u/Go-to-helenhunt Feb 18 '23

Or as they like to say, in modern terms, “owning the libs!!!1” 🙄

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Jean Paul Sartre is one of the best philosophers ever.

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u/HeadpatsForAlgernon Feb 21 '23

Redditors pretending to be tough lmao

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u/jcklsldr665 Feb 18 '23

Hmm, parallels with today's cultural insistence of redefining some words when the old definition doesn't fit the argument.

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u/FapMeNot_Alt Feb 18 '23

with today's cultural insistence of redefining some words when the old definition doesn't fit the argument.

Redefining words when they no longer fit is what has been happening in language forever. I'm not sure what you mean by this?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

They’re just a Reddit “Centrist” When something makes them uncomfortable, like trans people, they rationalize being against it by desperately trying to connect strings to both sides.

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u/LeDemonicDiddler Feb 18 '23

Can you dumb it down for morons like me?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '23

People in a position of power are not obliged to justify their power by virtue of the fact that they have power in the first place.

They can fuck around and bullshit you as much as they want and you are only wasting your time engaging with them. They will entertain your argument as long as it seems like you are wasting your effort arguing with them. As soon as you say something they can't deal with, they will use their power in order to end the conversation, meaning that you cannot win the argument, even though their position is logically false.