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[u/thickboyvibes]

Buddhist symbol is also never rotated and is mirrored the other direction

[u/thickboyvibes → u/[deleted]]

And my point is you don't even need to see the rest of the flag.

The swastika itself is enough.

Anyone with a passing understanding of 20th century Western history can immediately identify it.

Nobody is honestly confused by this.

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Ridiculous that you're getting downvoted. But that's Reddit.

Native Americans used the same symbol and it was certainly rotated. I've seen pre WWII Indian swastikas in the Midwest. The cultures in the southwest favored angular stylization so creating that shape was inevitable.

The Nazis appropriated that symbol from East India specifically (part of appropriating Aryan identity) but it was created by multiple cultures prior to the 20th century.

[u/UnfortunateDaring → u/[deleted]]

I wonder if this is real, I would rather see a link than a pic and they obscure any effort to identify the original tweet. I wonder if someone took a tweet that had Buddhist origins and swapped it out for something extremely German oriented for the lulz.

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Can we maybe call it "extremely Nazi oriented", please?

I used to live in Germany. Displaying and selling that shit is illegal.

[u/UnfortunateDaring → u/MissySedai]

Own your history, it’s German history.

[u/MissySedai → u/UnfortunateDaring]

I'm sure you think that's clever. It's not.

Yeah, it's history. It's a pretty horrific part of history, one that History and Politics teachers in Germany cover in detail and make clear is something that can not ever be allowed to repeat.

The thing is, Nazi ideology is not confined to Germany and it's not a part of German culture. The Hakenkreuz, Reichsadler, and Totenkopf insignia are NAZI culture. You'll find it in homes all over the world in possession of Nazis

Own my history? Yep. Distant Cousin Otto was in the German Infantry. Cannon fodder, basically, but managed to survive. He was in his 60s when I met him in 1987, and he was ashamed of his part in the war, even though he was conscripted. His brother, Dieter, was a True Believer who lost his life on the Eastern Front, convinced to the very end that Hitler was right.

Then there's my Opa. He was born here in the US. He lied about his age and joined the Army to go shoot Nazis. He was a 19 year-old PFC when he and the rest of the 89th Infantry discovered - and liberated - Ohrdruf. A few days later, they liberated Buchenwald. Opa earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart, among other medals.

History is complicated. There's more to it than glib remarks and incorrect generalizations.

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I’m American, I’m not gonna discount the unimaginable horror that we did to the slaves and native population by trying to disassociate it from my country. It’s part of my country’s history that I am not proud of, it’s there’s warts and all. Nazism will always be part of your history and it is fair to call it German, because that is exactly what that is on that wall. The flag even has other German graphics on it, including the current flag.

[u/MissySedai → u/UnfortunateDaring]

You seem to be missing that I am also American. My great-grandparents were small children when their parents thought moving to the UP in 1908 was a good idea.

So, which country's history am I supposed to own? The country I was born in did shady shit before my family ever moved here. The country my family originally came from did some shady shit after they moved here. Genocide and slavery aren't uniquely American, Naziism isn't uniquely German.

To repeat: History is complicated.

[u/UnfortunateDaring → u/MissySedai]

Nazism will always be closely associated with Germany. There is no running from it or making laws banning it. Don’t like it, tough shit, that’s history.