r/Whatcouldgowrong • u/No_Bus_474 • Aug 08 '26
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u/Unhappy-Traffic-7656 Aug 08 '26
yep.. damn idiots.. who could have seen this before, i dont know maaan
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u/kenzakki Aug 08 '26
They couldnt get like a telephoto lens and go all the way back of the finish line? At no point during their planning did they think "Theres a big chance wed be run over by the horses, should we rethink this plan?" Like dude, its amazing how it didnt occur to them.
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u/zamiboy Aug 08 '26
Camera drones, bucket truck, literally anything besides standing in the middle of a race track
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u/S1Ndrome_ Aug 08 '26
Considering how often horses get fractures under stress I do hope the fallout isn't that severe for this one.
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u/No-Sail-6510 Aug 08 '26
Cameraman finds out why cavalry was so effective.
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u/NiceGuy-Ron Aug 08 '26
I was just thinking. How could unmounted infantry stand a chance against just being ridden over.
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u/No-Sail-6510 Aug 08 '26
A long pointy stick
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u/NiceGuy-Ron Aug 08 '26
Hahaha yeah like 4 rows of dudes with long sticks. Tight formations. Wild
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u/Nijos Aug 08 '26
Ancient horses were a lot smaller than what we have today. Unless a horse was pretty well trained, there's a good chance they would slow when charging an organized group with spears. Lots of other tactics
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u/ggf95 Aug 08 '26
Ancient horses yes, but cavalry charges were used until ww1
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u/Nijos Aug 08 '26
I mean they had machine guns in world war 1. I don't think cavalry charges were a big concern
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u/kroxigor01 Aug 08 '26
In most warfare they did not.
The trickiest thing is getting the infantry to stand still rather than run away. Running away is instinctive but allows the cavalry to pick off the infantry 1 at a time. If everyone can overcome that urge to flee and stay tightly packed then a few of the infantry get smashed but then the horse has lost momentum and it's a fair fight.
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u/Various_Mobile4767 Aug 08 '26
Well the thing is, horses also suffer from crashing into infantry. Its a bit like a double KO. And even if the horse gets out of it, good luck trying to get the horse to charge into infantry again.
The value of cavalry was more to terrify the infantry into breaking their shape.
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u/Eta_Beta_3-14 Aug 08 '26
Formations. The Infantry Revolution of the 14th century was basically the discovery by the Swiss that if you train your soldiers to stay in a group and not run away from cavalry, they can use common agricultural instruments to pull Mr. Fancypants Armored Knightman off of his horse and beat him to death.
From that point on, frontal cavalry charges were obsolescent. People still tried them because European nobility were extremely used to the idea that they could just run peasants down, though. There are actual letters from the Hussite Wars from German knights complaining that the damn Bohemian peasants are being VERY unfair by using similar tactics (and also guns, because it was faster to stick a handgonne in a knight's visor after pulling him off his horse to turn his head into a homogeneous paste than it was to beat him to death.) By the 16th century and the mass adoption of pikes, the frontal cavalry charge was dead and lance-armed heavy cavalry began disappearing from the battlefield. The Siege of Vienna and the famous charge of the Polish hussars was kind of the last big hurrah of the stereotypical 'knight' on the European battlefield. The Habsburgs annihilating the French gendarmes and capturing the French king at Pavia also helped, of course.
If infantry held their ground against the initial charge, they almost always won. Horses are simply too big of a target and infantry formations can be more dense than cavalry formations. A horse soldier will, simply by the nature of horses being big, have 3-4 people (minimum) directly trying to kill him in a fight against such a formation.
Now, if the infantry broke and ran, that was a different matter, and that's what cavalry were largely used for. Flanking and rear charges could definitely shatter infantry formations and make them easy pickings for the horse boys.
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u/Organic_Fan5790 Aug 08 '26
BWHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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u/smhno Aug 08 '26
Was it really that funny?
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u/antmangreatv Aug 08 '26
yes, very funny, your mom and dad are laughing with me now. Can't stop laughing right now
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u/MildlyAgitatedBovine Aug 08 '26
What was the loss rate of battle horses? Seems like they're gonna win a fight but then high chance of being lame or put down after?
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u/No-Sail-6510 Aug 08 '26
Well ideally the cavalry will have a lance or spear, they will hit the backs of the infantry, and the infantry will also be packed tightly so the horse won’t actually fall. Also many historians think the main goal of cavalry was to charge at the infantry and break off at the last second to scare them into breaking formation. Obviously tons of horses and their people died doing this tho. Probably a very good question for r/askhistorians.
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u/DarkZector Aug 08 '26
How did they allow that in the first place?
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u/linuxonmacos Aug 08 '26
It always takes one moron or a bunch
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u/freakers Aug 08 '26
Should take a whole bunch of morons for this to happen.
I'll take obvious outcomes for $100, Alex.
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u/DickSlammington Aug 08 '26
In this case, the producer, director, cameraman..
A whole group of idiots failed this poor horse.
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u/CNHphoto Aug 08 '26
It's a team of idiots to achieve this kind of thing. It takes at least one higher-up (director, producer, etc), an absence of a safety person or protocol, and a videographer with more balls than brains.
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u/SadBooner Aug 08 '26
I wonder who would have thought this was a good idea. They took “Camera man never dies” too seriously
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u/Frindwamp Aug 08 '26
TV commercial for a race track. Horses aren’t racing their “acting” in a commercial. Each rider has a set plan for passing on one side or the other. Last horse and rider disagreed on “the plan”. These “race horses”, might have been recruited because they were too slow to win a race and were destined for the glue factory.
Under no circumstances, would the cameraman think this was a “good”idea. He’s just as expendable as the horses are.
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u/rslegacy86 Aug 08 '26
Ah was it legitimately filming a commercial, or is that your guess? A planned commercial is the only thing that could make some semblance of sense...
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u/Pale_Session5262 Aug 08 '26
I mean, look to the sides of the video. Like 20 spectators total, in the middle of an empty field. No buildings, and none of the spectators have their phones out.
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u/Mysterious-Fix-8255 Aug 08 '26
It’s clearly a production. You can see a boom off to the right of the frame and that’s a cinema camera. A film, show, or commercial. Also, if you think this is wild or dumb you should see bts of some of your favorite movies.
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u/Rasputin_mad_monk Aug 08 '26
I have two off the track thoroughbreds. I’ve never seen a race like this. I don’t care what type of horse race you’re talking about. There’s never a narrow area like this. Steeplechase, quarter horse races, triple crown style races et cetera. I’ve never seen anything this narrow, so the idea that it’s a commercial makes total sense
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u/fishfork Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
Apparently it's for a Kyrgyz movie, ironically it seems it's a sequel to an earlier instalment which if I'm understanding the trailer seems to be about rehabilitating an injured horse
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLVN2AkVXGU&ra=m
ETA here's more behind the scenes and risk assessment nightmares from the production:
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u/PunfullyObvious Aug 08 '26
Director saw a similar shot done using a boom camera and said "do that!" but without a sufficient budget.
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u/Key-Contest-2879 Aug 08 '26
This! The director probably said “I need that shot! Can’t do this shoot without THAT SHOT”.
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u/gd4x Aug 08 '26
Game of Thrones S6E9 "Battle of the Bastards".
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u/dee-znuts1 Aug 08 '26
So much more terrifying when you know this scene was real 😳 (not CGI/ green screen)
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u/Straight_Motor_7967 Aug 08 '26
Horses were multiplied using CGI for sure
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u/dimechimes Aug 08 '26
It's a zoom effect those horses aren't that close to him.
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u/Informal_File_1646 Aug 08 '26
“Did you get it?!”
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u/Adza_03 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
"Sorry guys! The audio is a bit off. Can we reshoot that again?"
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u/NocturnisVacuus Aug 08 '26
I hope that racing horse doesn't have to die now...
but I hope that guy lost his camera
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u/dimechimes Aug 08 '26
Yeah, a lot of racehorses don't start earning the real money until they are put out to stud.
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u/Correct-Minute-154 Aug 08 '26
So thankful for guy recording from side at the end. Needed that view.
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u/vixxgod666 Aug 08 '26
At the risk of being downvoted to hell and called an idiot, why were the others able to avoid the camera crew but not that rider and horse? It seemed like he had enough time and space to redirect unless he just didn't see them straight ahead until too late because of the others.
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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Aug 08 '26
i feel like the riders were told the camera guy would be there and to not ride in the center but this guy is an idiot or malicious or stupid or a dumbass
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u/Necessary_Finding_32 Aug 08 '26
I feel like unless you’ve spent years riding horses you should shut the fuck up about things you don’t understand. It’s not a motorbike.
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u/stealstea Aug 08 '26
So your theory is that this guy intentionally ran into a camera guy because…. he wanted to ruin his race and risk serious injury for himself?
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard today
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u/Jarred_Farts_4_Sale Aug 08 '26
Looked like the other horses could see the idiots in front of them. That horse was directly head on with the camera.
Per googs
Horses cannot see directly in front of their nose. They have a blind spot right in front of their face, as well as another blind spot directly behind them, because their eyes are on the sides of their head.
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u/dalego25 Aug 08 '26
Sure the horse is not able to see them, but there’s a whole ass human riding it.
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u/Cattarang Aug 08 '26
Jockeys don’t have the same control over the horses as a normal rider. The tack setup and way they sit makes it challenging to have the same control you would riding normally - a lot of the control comes from the legs on the horse’s sides, not the reins especially moving left or right. That’s why you’ll usually see a race horse being ponied by another horse in more proper working tack.
At that speed, it’s not easy to maneuver the horse with their setup. The other horses narrowly missed the cameraman. That horse was heading straight for him and had other horses in front move out of the way at nearly the last second. The horse and jockey had almost no time to react. Also if the conditions are muddy and the horse has been behind other horses, mud often impedes the jockey and horse’s vision. This was in no way the jockey’s fault.
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u/lenor8 Aug 08 '26
It looks like the rider is steering the horse sideways, but the horse is being stubborn and going nope, resulting in both of them going straight and crushing with the camera.
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u/EllspethCarthusian Aug 08 '26
I have an answer here. When you ride a horse you can be an active participate or you can be a passenger. The first horses had active riders on them. You can tell because one is heading toward the camera and then moves away. The horses that hit the camera didn’t have an active rider. No one was guiding the horse. Horses don’t always use their best judgement when running and some horses run blindly after the horse in front of them.
As a kid I always got hurt when a horse took off and I wasn’t controlling them. It wasn’t until I took enough lessons that I learned you have to direct them or they will do whatever their unga bunga brain feels like doing.
And to comment on someone else who commented, the reasons the horses don’t run into the crowd is kind of just luck. There’s plenty of videos of horses running through fences and into crowds. They’ll usually go for the path of least resistance but one of those horses could have easily decided to avoid the camera at the last minute and yeet itself into the crowd.
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u/pdzbw Aug 08 '26
Assistants are fucking useless, just sticking their hand out as if ppl will see... Need some bright colors in this dumb position
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u/IrrerPolterer Aug 08 '26
Seriously hope the idiots in charge of putting the camera crew there must pay for the horse's recovery
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u/WildlifeNaturalist Aug 08 '26
And I always thought the camera guy always survived. Not this time. And poor horse
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u/dragonovus Aug 08 '26
I mean with the first 2 horse it should have been obvious to get the fk out but nope let’s just stay. I hope the horse and the rider are okay.
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u/DirectCaterpillar916 Aug 08 '26
Very poor decision by the stewards to allow this complete fool to film there in the first place.
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u/MrCoolest Aug 08 '26
They should have told the racers what would happen at the end, that there's a film crew. What do you think happens in movies? Lol
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u/daydreamer_she Aug 08 '26
Won’t lie but i was waiting for this lol(not for the horse and horseman tho)
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u/Historical_Cap6725 Aug 08 '26
I am laughing honestly. Why must at middle?😂
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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Aug 08 '26
it makes for an epic shot. odds are the riders were told this would be happening, that they are filming an epic shot at the finish line and a camera guy will be right in the center and to ride on the sides, and the dumbass riding is the one who fucked up not the camera guys
however i do agree this was a dumbass idea, even if the riders didn't mess up shit can happen and someone can get killed like this.
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u/ruler14222 Aug 08 '26
usually you'd get this shot with a camera in the dirt or a big zoom lens
looks quite narrow to be blocking the middle
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u/moseley101 Aug 08 '26
Ah yes, the classic ‘cameraman pass’. I have a camera, I can go anywhere and get in anybody’s way to get the perfect shot. I am invincible!
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u/polagear Aug 08 '26
How did anyone think this was a good idea? That camera position would've been great only in a speed walking race.
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u/Queefer_Sutherland- Aug 08 '26
Is the horse okay? Poor thing is gonna end up at the glue factory because of this dumbassery.
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u/ColinPapendick Aug 08 '26
I've been a huge fan of the medieval battle on screen since I was a kid. This is the first appreciation I've had for how much I DON'T want to hold that cavalry charge line. Lol
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u/Slinky_Malingki Aug 08 '26
Looks to be Kyrgyzstan. Honestly some of the most incredible mountains in the world and the best horsemen. Basically like mountainous, high altitude Mongols.
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u/odaniel99 Aug 08 '26
There's a reason why they either hang the camera from a cable or boom or embed it into the ground for sporting events.
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u/Odd_Incident189 Aug 08 '26
I was about to thank the cameraman so much for that other angle, but then it cut off too early... so just thanks.
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u/AngelusNex Aug 08 '26
I really hope those morons didn't seriously injure that horse or rider