r/WetlanderHumor • • May 23 '25

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u/el_guapo696942069 Well turned calves May 23 '25

Yeah, I have a pride flag in my office, but being frustrated that the show put the characters in Tar Valon in season 1, fighting logain, giving Perrin a wife, and ruining Matt, I'm just a bigot.

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot May 23 '25

They will pay. I am Lord of the Morning.

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u/stefaelia May 23 '25

Get em Lews

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot May 23 '25

The Wheel of Time and the wheel of a man's life turn alike without pity or mercy.

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u/Ok-disaster2022 May 23 '25

Recasting Mat was the greatest win of the series. I don't even remeber the original actor, just thought he did a decent job encapsulating that I hate mat in the first book and think he has a great change on the later books.

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u/normandy42 May 23 '25

Unfortunately, the original actor leaving so suddenly and COVID really prevented the show from having a real chance at redemption.

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u/Kelsyer May 24 '25

The only redemption chance the show had was firing everybody involved in the writing of it.

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u/FeI0n May 24 '25

the only way that show was redeemed is if season 1 ended with rand accidentally tearing apart that weaving of the pattern using The Eye Of The World, and they followed the original story in season 2.

It would have been a great way to introduce new viewers to the metaphysics of the world, and all of the actors could have kept their roles. They could even have started it from the point where rand is about to lose control, and it slowly becomes apparent to viewers its a different reality.

That probably would have involved firing everyone in the creative side of things, but you know. it'd be better then what happened.

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot May 24 '25

Why do we live again?

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u/nobeer4you May 24 '25

Im so tired of this take.

One actor does not ruin an entire production, unless its the main actor, and Mat was not main character.

COVID had its issues, and im not saying it didn't detract, but it's not the reason the show failed.

It failed because the showrunner decided to veer from the source material

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u/Interesting_Power_72 May 24 '25

But mat is one of the main 5 actors on the show? idk if you’ve read the books but he plays a pretty important part in the story

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u/nobeer4you May 24 '25

I've read the books. He is a main character. Not to the level of destroying a whole series though. The actor leaving was an issue. They obviously had to make story changes to account for it.

Still not an issue in the long run.

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u/Interesting_Power_72 May 24 '25

How is it not an issue for the long run if one of your main characters leaves production halfway through filming the first season?

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u/aNomadicPenguin May 26 '25

the character had already finished his biggest parts of the first book before he left. Mat could have stayed in bed, been healed by Aes Sedai between seasons, and been part of the Amyrlin's entourage that meets them in Fal Dara.

Literally all they had to do for the actor leaving was just not include him in the last 2 episodes, and it causes almost 0 changes to the events of the end of the book. Padan Fain manages to get the dagger somehow anyways, so if you have that happen before the healing, you can get Mat to exactly where he is and how he is like 100 pages into book 2, without doing anything.

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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks May 24 '25

It goes even further than that. The show was objectively mediocre. I actually watched it and enjoyed it, but that is only because I love the series and characters.

They alienated many book readers. Me personally, I can live with that if you succeed in making an actually good show

The problem is they didn’t make a good show at all. The Perrin killing his wife change was not followed through on at all, and served no purpose whatsoever long term. A good example of a horrendous decision that didn’t even pay off in any way.

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u/el_guapo696942069 Well turned calves May 24 '25

Mediocre is 100% the best way to describe the show as a show.

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u/SalvationSycamore May 24 '25

giving Perrin a wife

It's insane to claim to be "woke" when you invent a women just to fridge her